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  • Blog, Internet, Security - Written by on Friday, September 21, 2012 11:40 - 51 Comments

    Critics flood Roxon with copies of Orwell’s ‘1984’

    blog We bet Federal Attorney-General Nicola Roxon isn’t thrilled at the latest method which Australians concerned about the Government’s proposed data retention and Internet surveillance regime have adopted to express their dissent. Half a dozen of Roxon’s fiercest critics have started mailing the Labor MP copies of George Orwell’s iconic book 1984. Blogger Daniel Kinsman writes:

    “Given the recent push for increased surveillance, ISP data retention, and the erosion of any “right to remain silent”, I wonder if Nicola Roxon has read 1984. Let’s make sure she has, or at least that she re-reads it, given the circumstances. I’m going to buy her a copy and send it to her address at parliament house:

    You can do the same. Find a copy in your local book store, or order online at fishpond ($9.51 including shipping), book depository ($9.43 including shipping), or amazon. Be sure to mark it as a gift and include a note, but be civil. We are trying to convince her that our privacy and freedoms are important, and that new powers will violate them in an attempt to catch criminals that has dubious efficacy at best. Twenty copies of 1984 landing on her desk should get our message across.”

    Kinsman told Delimiter this morning that half a dozen copies were already on their way to the Attorney-General. One wonders whether Roxon will find the tome to be interesting late night reading material ;) Perhaps she could forward the excess copies to the Australian Federal Police and ASIO?

    Image credit: Cropped version of one of the original covers of 1984

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    1. PointZeroOne
      Posted 21/09/2012 at 11:42 am | Permalink | Reply

      but isn’t this just going to give her more ideas?

      • Posted 21/09/2012 at 11:47 am | Permalink | Reply

        I hadn’t considered that possibility. I think it depends on how well she is able to see through satire ;)

        • Posted 21/09/2012 at 12:10 pm | Permalink | Reply

          Wouldn’t she also consider it “trolling”? ;)

          • Matthew
            Posted 21/09/2012 at 2:08 pm | Permalink | Reply

            No this is literature bullying

            • Posted 21/09/2012 at 2:15 pm | Permalink | Reply

              lol, as opposed to “social media” bullying

              • GongGav
                Posted 21/09/2012 at 2:19 pm | Permalink | Reply

                If they suggest a tiered setup, the next book would be Animal Farm…

                Now THAT would start to be literature bullying :)

                • Posted 21/09/2012 at 3:56 pm | Permalink | Reply

                  I would suggest that it would be entirely appropriate to spam both Labor and the Coalition with copies of Animal Farm :)

                  • giltapple
                    Posted 10/10/2012 at 3:47 am | Permalink | Reply

                    @Renai

                    Let us never forget that some animals are more equal than others …

                    Despite its title, the novel (its thesis becoming less novel, day-by-day, in Australia) has no intrinsic use-by date. Remember that paranoia is the one true instinct.

        • Cameron
          Posted 22/09/2012 at 5:16 pm | Permalink | Reply

          Scary thing is I suspect this is where the department are getting their ideas from.

          Anyone seen the latest smart TVs? The ones that are motion controlled and have a camera for Skype conferencing and games etc?

          Anyone note the desire to extend the definition of computer? Most likely to include smart phones, tablets, gaming consoles etc… and most likely smart TVs.

          Anyone note they are asking for unamed 3rd parties to be targeted on without a warrant?

          Anyone care to guess what *could* happen if a “person of interest” happened to visit your home regularly and you happen to have a smart tv with camera in the lounge room?

          I don’t think the spook powers are like Orwell’s Big Brother, I think it *is* Big Brother.

          Seriously, think about the consequences of unnamed 3rd parties to a warrant being able to be electronically surveilled in today’s connected society… what wouldn’t be possible?

          * Devices with fingerprint scanners could be accessed.
          * Televisions with embedded cameras could be accessed, some even in bedrooms.
          * Smartphones with cameras could be accessed
          * Tablets, etc

          What about the photos you have stored on these devices?

          • BuildFTTP
            Posted 23/09/2012 at 2:46 am | Permalink | Reply

            ‘Anyone note they are asking for unamed 3rd parties to be targeted on without a warrant?’

            This is the single most concerning aspect of the packages in my eyes.

    2. David
      Posted 21/09/2012 at 11:47 am | Permalink | Reply

      1984 was supposed to be a cautionary tale, not a totalitarian handbook!

    3. Posted 21/09/2012 at 11:49 am | Permalink | Reply

      I hate to be pedantic, but the book called is “Nineteen Eighty-Four”, not “1984″.

      • Posted 21/09/2012 at 11:50 am | Permalink | Reply

        *is called* :)

      • Posted 21/09/2012 at 11:52 am | Permalink | Reply

        bah, it’s Friday, what do you want, a sub-editor???? ;)

        • GongGav
          Posted 21/09/2012 at 1:04 pm | Permalink | Reply

          Whats the pay like? And hour?

          • Posted 21/09/2012 at 2:09 pm | Permalink | Reply

            Poor, 24×7

            • GongGav
              Posted 21/09/2012 at 2:17 pm | Permalink | Reply

              You cant just say 24×7, I wanted a specific hour!!! I’ll take 11am Tuesday please.

              Being (only slightly more) serious, I know I wont get a number, but I HAVE been curious to how much all the plusone.google.com hits generate for this site :) I see anywhere from 1 to 4 when I load up a story.

              Back button keeps running into them here at work, probably generating its fair share of extra bling along the way.

              • Posted 21/09/2012 at 3:55 pm | Permalink | Reply

                We don’t get a stack of traffic from Google Plus — perhaps a few hundred page impressions a day. We get a lot more traffic from places such as Twitter, Google Search, Whirlpool, Reddit, email newsletter and so on.

    4. Bob.H
      Posted 21/09/2012 at 12:01 pm | Permalink | Reply

      I wonder if I can find a copy of Nineteen Eighty Four at my second hand book store?

      It seems only right to send her a second hand book to go with her second hand ideas.

      • Acer Bic
        Posted 21/09/2012 at 2:29 pm | Permalink | Reply

        I tried two local second hand shops this morning; no luck.

        But I will bestow a gift of the book on Nicola, as suggested.

    5. Posted 21/09/2012 at 12:32 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Just in case Roxon made the transition, should some of us email her the ebook instead?

      • Bern
        Posted 21/09/2012 at 2:18 pm | Permalink | Reply

        Nah, just email her a link to the Project Gutenberg download page…

        http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks01/0100021.txt

        • Posted 21/09/2012 at 3:54 pm | Permalink | Reply

          I think a physical copy of the book would have a great deal more impact :) I think, courtesy of the ‘ccRoxon’ hashtag, that Roxon is already getting a great deal of email on this issue ;)

          • SMEMatt
            Posted 22/09/2012 at 9:31 am | Permalink | Reply

            Only if you throw it.
            Although you could load it onto an old kindle and throw that.

    6. Michael
      Posted 21/09/2012 at 12:41 pm | Permalink | Reply

      The problem is they are completely different. Nineteen Eighty-Four is about when he government has total control. Roxon is doing her job by pushing for these recomendations. I Don’t think she beleives they will come into play in the fasion they are proposed.
      The discussion paper was about what powers they needed in ideal circumstances.

      • Posted 21/09/2012 at 3:53 pm | Permalink | Reply

        “Roxon is doing her job by pushing for these recomendations.”

        No, her job is to represent the Australian people — who have overwhelmingly demonstrated that they oppose this surveillance and data retention package.

        • TechinBris
          Posted 22/09/2012 at 3:40 pm | Permalink | Reply

          And that is precisely what the Australian Electorate and most of the Citizens of Western Democracies have forgotten Renai. They are OUR Representatives and not the Multinational Corporations, nor Lobby Group’s Representatives. If that is what they want to be and represent them and not us, well I am not foolish enough to vote for them.
          Time for Australian’s to wake up again and steer our own course for our own future, which can be nothing like Nineteen Eighty-four if we decide to think for ourselves.

        • giltapple
          Posted 10/10/2012 at 4:13 am | Permalink | Reply

          @Renai

          ‘No, her [Roxon's] job is to repress the Australian people …’ Fixed that 4 ya.

          ‘… reading Iain M. Banks’ Culture series, personally — it gives us a glimpse of what our society could be …’ Regrettably, most ctizens of most societies are unlikely to agree about the ideal shape of their society, but we are being given plenty of practice in identifying the kind that we jointly do *not* need or desire.

    7. GongGav
      Posted 21/09/2012 at 1:28 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Probably pick up a DVD of the movie for around the same price as well, if not less.

    8. Posted 21/09/2012 at 2:45 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Nineteen Eighty-Four is public domain in Australia, so you can find it in a few places, legally:

      - Adelaide Uni: http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/o/orwell/george/o79n/ [epub, mobi, html]
      - Planet eBooks: http://www.planetebook.com/1984.asp [pdf]

      Personally, I love the Adelaide University ebook collection. They have a pretty good variety of public domain works in multiple accessible formats. :)

      • Posted 21/09/2012 at 3:47 pm | Permalink | Reply

        Thanks for those links, a few books in there I’ve been meaning to read, saves me looking for a copy :)

    9. Stephen
      Posted 21/09/2012 at 2:57 pm | Permalink | Reply

      I like this idea, but surely there are a few other books she may find useful as well. Perhaps some Solzhenitsyn, or maybe just the Diary of Anne Frank?

      Alternatively, I have a copy of The Prince that may come in handy.

      • Posted 21/09/2012 at 3:31 pm | Permalink | Reply

        I think politicians would benefit from reading Iain M. Banks’ Culture series, personally — it gives us a glimpse of what our society could be, if we actually aspired to something. Star Trek TNG is also a good vision of this.

    10. Posted 21/09/2012 at 3:00 pm | Permalink | Reply

      It is not only Roxon and the Labor Party that causes concern. Abbott and the Liberals do not appear to have opposed any of this! So we have a cross party agreement?

    11. Posted 21/09/2012 at 3:50 pm | Permalink | Reply

      How ironic would it be if Roxon ended up receiving hundreds of copies of 1984 in the mail and ended up burning them all to get rid of them?

      Orwell would die laughing at that one.

      • Posted 21/09/2012 at 3:59 pm | Permalink | Reply

        I’ll send a copy now!

      • TechinBris
        Posted 22/09/2012 at 3:48 pm | Permalink | Reply

        If she started to burn books we could send her Ray Bradbury’s Fahrenheit 451. How apt!

    12. Posted 21/09/2012 at 4:35 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Pointed, peaceful protest. Genius!

    13. Soth
      Posted 21/09/2012 at 4:39 pm | Permalink | Reply

      I’ve just saved a digital copy of it on my desktop under the folder “Federal Police Don’t Look in Here”
      Now I wait for her to read it…
      Roxon – “Yes! This passed law is about to start working in our favour!” *opens folder* “.. bugger not again”

      • Posted 21/09/2012 at 5:07 pm | Permalink | Reply

        lol it would be hilarious if the AFP actually did look in there and found it :)

        I guess you’ll have to commit some sort of criminal activity and attract their attention to find out ;)

        • Cameron
          Posted 22/09/2012 at 5:25 pm | Permalink | Reply

          If these powers get through as proposed unfortunately that will no longer be the case.

          They may “disrupt” your device as a 3rd party (and without including you on original, or any warrant) to get to someone that is under direct investigation.

          Do you everything about the people you interact with online? What private messages have you exchanged with them? Could the spooks be interested in them?

          Why not? They are also proposing to make getting a warrant more streamlined (read no checks and balances) so it wouldn’t take much to go on a fishing expedition.

    14. Paleoflatus
      Posted 21/09/2012 at 4:54 pm | Permalink | Reply

      As with our foreign policy, defence spending etc., she’s simply doing what her masters in Washington are telling her to do. After our next election, the policy will remain. Only the names will change – but not to protect the innocent! Roxon’s only there to cop the flack.
      Sending Orwell’s book is a neat idea, but it won’t change anything.

    15. Randy Andy Pandy Bolt
      Posted 21/09/2012 at 8:47 pm | Permalink | Reply

      What a fucking bullshit story – “Flooding her office with….”

      Oh like umm how many people so far? What is that? 9 of them?

      Ummmmm who really gives a fuck.

      Idiot journalism.

    16. Alex
      Posted 21/09/2012 at 8:59 pm | Permalink | Reply

      I hate to be annoying but she’s not a Senator.

    17. Duke
      Posted 22/09/2012 at 3:03 pm | Permalink | Reply

      They have good intentions, but have no idea how the Feds work… the books will be intercepted by very low level mailroom kids and consigned to an incinerator, or recycled to come back as Labor how to vote cards.

    18. TechinBris
      Posted 22/09/2012 at 3:54 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Maybe we should start sending to everyone we come across the E-Book, since here in Oz it is in the Public Domain. If everyone read it, it would certainly send shivers down the spine of a lot of people who have never read it. It certainly make the Politicians of the major Parties cringe in horror to see it become the number one book read in the Country. LOL

    19. Liam
      Posted 23/09/2012 at 3:30 am | Permalink | Reply

      i have decided to make a piece of malware… fear not people, this malware will not be harmful and will hopefully help destroy these data retention proposals….
      my malware will monitor network traffic and when usage is low, it will start pinging massive amounts of IP addresses, this will make all the data that the ISP’s have to collect useless as it will be impossible to distinguish between the malware and actual usage… FUCK YOU NICOLA ROXON

      • David
        Posted 26/09/2012 at 8:59 am | Permalink | Reply

        Liam,
        Can you put it in the Public Domain? I’m sure there would be many users.

    20. Murdoch
      Posted 24/09/2012 at 10:30 am | Permalink | Reply

      Purchased and sent her a copy. Delivery time approx mid October. Wonder what the mail room in Parliament House is going to see in the next couple of weeks?

    21. Posted 02/10/2012 at 12:59 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Superb site you have here but I was wondering if you knew of any message
      boards that cover the same topics discussed
      here? I’d really love to be a part of community where I can get advice from other experienced people that share the same interest. If you have any recommendations, please let me know. Thank you!

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