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  • Opinion - Written by on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 10:39 - 36 Comments

    Why John Linton’s not (that) crazy

    opinion There is no doubt that Exetel chief John Linton is somewhat of an outcast in Australia’s telecommunications industry.

    And when you start to follow his affairs and public statements, you quickly realise why.

    Firstly, there’s his fiery opposition to the Federal Government’s $43 billion National Broadband Network project, an initiative which has garnered the almost universal support of almost every other ISP and telco executive in Australia since Prime Minister Kevin Rudd unveiled the plans 10 months ago.

    On his controversial blog, Linton has variously described the NBN as “dreamed up by a total wanker (Krudd)”, “a Field of Dreams”, “Krudd’s NBN2 bankruptcy plan”, “the Krudd NBN2 face-saving plan”, “a monopoly which Telstra will end up controlling” and “the Krudd cover-up known as the NBN2″.

    And those were just the phrases I pulled out of the blog in a quick five minute search.

    You could forgive Linton for his views on the NBN. After all, Paul Broad, who runs the much larger telco AAPT, feels much the same way. As recently as November 2009 Broad described the NBN as “absolute rubbish”, a “political ploy” to break-up Telstra and “a complete waste of money”.

    You could also forgive Linton for his controversial views on the future of 3G wireless, which he sees as a much more viable alternative than fibre for the future of broadband access in Australia.

    “Most people that I know, including me, put a much higher priority on mobility than they do on speed,” he told ZDNet.com.au several weeks ago. “The average person needs a 100Mbps internet connection about as much as they need to have their arms amputated.”

    After all, Broad shares Linton’s views on wireless too.

    Finally, you could even understand Exetel’s novel approach to running his ISP. The company started selling residential ADSL broadband in January 2004, with — as its website clearly states — the sole objective of providing telecommunications services “at lower monthly prices than ALL other suppliers of similar services to Australian users”.

    At times, this approach appeared to have resulted in, as some users have described it, an “our way or the highway” approach to customers, with Exetel appearing to prefer interaction via its excellent internet forum rather than through expensive call centre support.

    You could write off this approach as being born from the need to keep costs low in a start-up business, and forgive Linton because recent blog posts show the company has been ramping up its support investment in this area, particularly through the use of a call centre in Sri Lanka.

    Then too, Exetel’s web site also states, that it is not in business “to make as much money as possible”, only to make enough to ensure it stays in business. One third of all profits (almost $350,000 in 2008) go to environmental programs.

    All of this, you could expect Australia’s telecommunications industry to forgive or at least ignore.

    “Ultimately what the blog and John Linton himself represents is the pure, unadulterated voice of the liberal-minded traditional Australian small business owner.”

    But what absolutely nobody can understand about Linton is why he consistently insists on using his blog to document and analyse the internal workings of the ISP industry in great detail.

    For example, in recent weeks, Linton has variously debunked the idea that government funding is needed for ISPs to combat spammers, detailed his exploration of a potential merger opportunity and IPO, analysed the real estate costs of Exetel’s ongoing growth, almost obsessively ruminated about how 3G wireless plans should be structured and disclosed how Exetel is using staff in Sri Lanka to improve its customer support.

    This kind of radical transparency is frightening to executives who keep so many of the details of their own businesses — especially pricing structures — hidden away behind closed doors. I can conclusively say that no other ISP executive in Australia has gone into as much detail over the past year on any one of those or similar issues as Linton has.

    It’s this approach which has the earned Linton the outcast mark — but which also has the industry clandestinely reading his blog anyway.

    Now there’s no doubt that the Exetel czar’s blog most definitely contains the sort of offensive language you would hear in the Coogee Bay Hotel. And Linton goes too far with his rants on occasion.

    But ultimately what the blog and John Linton himself represents is the pure, unadulterated voice of the liberal-minded traditional Australian small business owner.

    In short, Linton is one of the few people in Australia to honestly and loudly speak the truth about the nation’s telco industry’s business — or at least, the truth as he sees it.

    This kind of “damn the topedoes” approach is a hallmark of Australian small business. Australians are known for favouring the rebellious underdog — and Australian SMEs love to talk tough and stick it to the giants.

    If we are to believe that the NBN will provide wholesale opportunities for more players than just the major ISPs like Telstra, Optus and iiNet, it’s important that those making big decisions listen to unorthodox players like Linton.

    That’s why I am going to continue reading Linton’s posts and even responding to them with my own commentary. I like a good rant, I like an executive who isn’t afraid to make his opinion known, and most of all, I like Australia’s telecommunications industry to be a hotbed of debate and competition. We need more unorthodox voices to keep the dialogue from becoming a one-sided chorus.

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    1. Bodog
      Posted 27/01/2010 at 7:56 pm | Permalink | Reply

      I've been a customer of Exetel since 2004 on ADSL1, ADSL2+, Voice and HSPA services and they are a great provider who have repeatedly extended their offerings over the last 5 years as they become available.

      You know what you're getting with John and his team – no BS and great plans and pricing. I hope they stay independent and continue to innovate

      Good luck with Delimiter – hope it doesn't distract you from your Twitter posts!

      • Posted 27/01/2010 at 11:41 pm | Permalink | Reply

        @Bodog Haha cheers — I think there is no danger of me stopping using Twitter any time soon ;)

    2. JL
      Posted 28/01/2010 at 2:33 am | Permalink | Reply

      I can't help myself, these laxatives the doctor have me on are a known side effects of turning you into a raving old coot. I can't believe In write such drivel but that 's how it goes when yu can't shit properly

      • Murdoch
        Posted 28/01/2010 at 4:26 am | Permalink | Reply

        @Sean

        "Finally, they don’t choose fibre-to-the-premises they choose fibre-to-the-node"

        You missed the part where the government killed the Fibre to the Node and went with Fibre to the Premises. And not recently, quite some time ago. Try to keep up.

        The remainder of your post indicates that you need to revisit what the government is doing, because you'll find that a lot of what you are suggesting has been tabled. Get some current information before getting up on your high horse.

      • Duke
        Posted 28/01/2010 at 5:01 am | Permalink | Reply

        He's not crazy, he has a selfish agenda and mindset all tied to his investment in wireless. he refuses to acknowledge the fault of it as a stable broadband basis for all services as it is a shared degradable facility but he has too much invested to take a balanced approach.

        Appearing to be nutty as a coot sometimes disguises a darker reality and if his approach was adopted industry wise you can kiss your desktop based services like gaming and next gen streaming video goodbye.

    3. Posted 28/01/2010 at 6:11 am | Permalink | Reply

      I have a narrow minded view of the world and am thinking short term, the NBN will slow the growth of exetel and I am wanting to sell it in the short term and retire. I would rather see australia with a 2nd class ISP services that I can make huge profits on than a 1st class ISP that I can't make money off

    4. Posted 28/01/2010 at 7:14 am | Permalink | Reply

      Oh come on, how many people carry a laptop around with them and need net access on the go? Not bloody many. The vast majority use broadband from their homes or places of business.

      Yes, it may be nice to take it to the coffee shop from time to time, or if you are a frequent business traveler.

      Otherwise you don't need it. Linton's just a nutter.

      Wireless is shared bandwidth and cannot compete with optical fibre, full stop.

      Simon Shaw

      Systems Administrator.

    5. Posted 28/01/2010 at 8:24 am | Permalink | Reply

      The Sri Lankan office is more than a call centre. They're doing some of the back-office work too in addition to support. Plus, unlike most "call centres",they're actually IT educated staff rather than "phone-script-customer service" staff.

      Exetel worked with Austrade and the Sri Lankan govt to setup a scholarship also, and ensure the staff are extremely well paid (compared to other local employees). This was all part of their "give back to society" basis on which Exetel is built, including the flora/fauna project support and their overall pricing.

      For those who talk about Exetel being "small" an "2nd rate" – they may be small but they are much bigger than "tiny" with well over 100,000 customers. And those customers include some large business, corporate and govt customers.

      I disagree with John re wireless, however agree with many (not all!) of his other views on the NBN and KRudd.

      Disclaimer: I am an Exetel agent and sell their products.

    6. Posted 28/01/2010 at 10:46 am | Permalink | Reply

      Rob: "Plus I don’t have to fear the Exetel’ “3 strikes and you’re out” policy approach to “downloading content” ."

      If you don't steal content, you have nothing to fear. Exetel don't have a "3 strikes" policy anyway – IF they receive a copyright accusation against you, they redirect you to a page whereby you either deny the accusation or accept and declare they you've removed the item. That means they are simply passing on the accusation, and allowing you to respond to it (they are neither Judge nor Jury in this process, merely the messenger). Regardless of your thoughts of the current AFACT case (and I also agree that the courts should be deciding guilt!), Exetel is covering their arse legally to avoid themselves being drawn through court.

      Can't say I blame them, and I would do the same (and if you think about it, I'm sure you'd rather not risk a multimillion dollar law suit for the actions, perceived or otherwise, of your customers either!).

      • Posted 28/01/2010 at 10:50 am | Permalink | Reply

        Rob: As for the outsourcing matter, Internode supports Australian Jobs!!! (unlike Exetel)

        1. No-one lost their job. The foreign workers (STAFF, not "outsource" – they are Exetel staff and are not contracted to an agency etc) was an addition to Exetel's existing service and allowed longer support hours.

        2. Exetel continues to hire staff, in fact have added a large number of staff in the last 12 months alone.

        • Posted 28/01/2010 at 10:53 am | Permalink | Reply

          AL: "Should have said this first would have saved me reading the rubbish."

          1. At least I say who I am – you hide behind internet anonymity

          2. "the rubbish" is a list of facts – maybe you believe in the old adage of "never let the facts get in the way of a good story"

    7. Emmanuel Goldstein
      Posted 28/01/2010 at 5:54 pm | Permalink | Reply

      John Linton is crazy. His destroyed more teleco's then any man alive.

      Only reason why Exetel is surviving is because its his own business and he can't exactly rip himself off

    8. BraM
      Posted 29/01/2010 at 3:06 am | Permalink | Reply

      Err…

      Mr Linton. Is that really you?

      Reminds me a little of the fake Mr Conroy, minus the funny.

    9. Posted 29/01/2010 at 3:44 am | Permalink | Reply

      No one laughs @ John Linton son. I will be remembered for suing the TIO

    10. Liam Dixon
      Posted 29/01/2010 at 1:18 pm | Permalink | Reply

      I love the fact that he's seen as an outcast for his recent commentary, yet his hand in the downfall of a number of companies and poor business practices fails a mention.

    11. Posted 29/01/2010 at 8:05 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Liam Dixon

      >Jan 29, 2010 2:18

      >I love the fact that he’s seen as an outcast for his recent commentary, yet his hand in the downfall of a >number of companies and poor business practices fails a mention.

      Liam Dixon, do you have links to support this?

      Thanks.

    12. Posted 30/01/2010 at 3:14 am | Permalink | Reply

      I was a big part of the One.tel success, in the short term you can sell below cost till the seed money is spent. We all had an awesome time, lets just say that one days sleep every fortnight was not enough. We where youngish and we thought that more seed money was coming.

      I then copped a lot of criticism for apple internet and also swiftel turning bad as well as I was the senior architect. Then when I realised that I couldn't find a new bunny to work for I realised it was time to play the game for keeps.

      My genius stroke was to appeal to cheap asses and warez freaks at the same time. Pure genius as I could offer dirt cheap internet with massive download limits. I was a legend, I proved the doubters who's the crazy old coot now!

    13. Liam Dixon
      Posted 30/01/2010 at 9:59 am | Permalink | Reply

      Leon,

      Short of doing it for you simply looking into the collapse of One.Tel and the buy out of Switfel by People Telecom has a great amount of information on the business dealings leading upto it. From memory there was a press release from PT regarding the reverse buy out and why it was done the way it was.

      I take it you're not famailar with Mr Linton. Maybe I should post some of the conversations I've had with his son James. Although to be fair it was more him calling me a number of names. So although entertaining doesn't reflect any worth.

    14. Posted 30/01/2010 at 1:38 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Leave my idiot son out of this blog.

    15. X.E.
      Posted 11/02/2010 at 10:17 am | Permalink | Reply

      @seeknbuy.com.au – They want you to think that nobody in the Australian office lost their job as a result of off-shoring, but in actual fact that's not the case. You shouldn't be so sure and confident of the things that you don't know much about. While JL may appear to have a very transparent operation, there is quite a lot that goes on behind closed doors.

      @Liam Dixon – Believe it or not, you are not the only one that has gotten offside of James. I have heard of quite a number of people that have had the misfortune of dealing with him on a bad day.

      JL's attitudes, practices and logic behind Exetel is quite unique in the industry and he certainly is doing something right from all accounts (awards, better pricing etc..).

      It should also be mentioned that the only staff being hired nowdays are sales staff, have a look at the Exetel staff page and the sales department is growing… The technical staff have had the kiss of death put on them and will start declining in the next 12 to 24 months as they all go overseas to train the off shore staff members, and then moved on.

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    18. Posted 27/01/2010 at 8:07 pm | Permalink | Reply

      The problem I have with the whole NBN is that it simply defies economic sense. Kevin Rudd portrayed himself as an economic rationalist during his election campaign. Then he gets elected and starts suggesting that large cities should underwrite high speed bandwidth into areas of the country where the cost doesn't justify placing fibre there.

      Then he gets on his high horse about breaking up Telstra – the hypocrisy being totally lost on him that it was the sale of Telstra (which his party vehemently opposed) which is underwriting his stupid NBN in the first place. So effectively Telstra shareholders will all take a haircut as well to provide high speed connectivity to places where the costs don't add up.

      Finally, they don't choose fibre-to-the-premises they choose fibre-to-the-node. So all of this high speed trunking to fire it down a crappy copper line to everyone? Not only that, the exchanges are full for the most part, so where are all of these competing ISP's going to put their kit in these wonderful new supernodes? Or is K-Rudd going to pull a Keating and simply create a duplicate set of infrastructure?

      The whole scheme is madness. The "bush" should be serviced by low-cost 3G and even potentially 4G and if that requires some kind of small subsidy, then so be it. The government should bring back the ability for the carriers to hoist towers at their own discretion in rural areas – if you want to live in the bush and want high speed broadband, then we need to strategically place towers for you, suck it up. In the cities, it should be part of the building code that EVERY new residence built have a fibre tail and coaxial cable to the demarcation point. The cost would be less than a hundred dollars per residence and we'd futureproof these place. I also think the government should force open the Telstra exchanges and if they are full, make them build new ones. At the same time, instead of wasting money on a backbone network (of which there is already plenty in Australia), the government should give consumers a 100% rebate on paying any carrier they like to run fibre to the home. I've seen costs throughout this debate that say running fibre to the door in every capital city would cost less than $10b – so there you go, we save some money and get some really superfast broadband!

    19. Posted 27/01/2010 at 11:32 pm | Permalink | Reply

      I totally agree Renai… I read Linton's blog all the time and posted a comment on there the other day giving him kudos for what he is doing. A lot of what he says is tinged with a heavy right wing bent, and he has a simplistic/concrete way of looking at issues that actually have a lot of grey in them, BUT he is prolific and entertaining to read, and drops many interesting factoids in there that shed light on how the telco industry works, and that is definitely to be commended.

      What impresses me about his business is that it has been a solid provider of services. At first I assumed it would be a flash-in-the-pan company — as most companies that base themselves around low, low prices are — but he has doggedly continued running the place with (as far as I know) a pretty high quality service, for people who don't mind doing mostly their own tech support, with help from peers and an off-shore call centre as a last option. Not exactly an ISP I would recommend to my family or friends, but for people who know what they are doing, not a bad choice.

    20. Posted 27/01/2010 at 11:40 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Yup — Exetel is growing like a weed :) I know a lot of people that use it, especially technology enthusiasts and so on.

    21. A.L
      Posted 28/01/2010 at 4:06 am | Permalink | Reply

      He is an idiot and if anyone knows I know.

    22. Bodog
      Posted 28/01/2010 at 6:10 am | Permalink | Reply

      Duke

      Do tell us more about "his investment in wireless"?

      Exetel resell Optus HSPA and Voadafone Mobile – and has tens of thousand of ADSL and ADSL2 customers (again supplied on third parties networks) – so what's JL got invested that means he won't take a balanced approach?

      and could the imposter JL and A.L's. not bother replying

    23. Posted 28/01/2010 at 7:22 am | Permalink | Reply

      Simon: I agree with you completely that wireless is no substitute for fibre, and that high-speed, low-latency, non-shared broadband capacity is essential to our future. However, I disagree that wireless broadband is not thoroughly mainstream nowadays — with deals from $10 – $15 per month, lots and lots of people use it — anyone with a laptop that's small enough to take around with them, for example. Plenty of people use it as their primary internet connection these days, too — if they're only interested in email and web, and the occasional YouTube watch.

    24. BraM
      Posted 28/01/2010 at 7:34 am | Permalink | Reply

      John,

      You have every right to build your business and sell it (when you choose) to fund your retirement. But how "short term" are you thinking. The NBN is years (and years) away – that's plenty of time to reap your riches.

      Now your "narrow minded views" are quite well known – especially in the last week. But as a consumer I would much prefer a 1st class ISP that I can utilise. At the moment that is Exetel but when the NBN rolls out and your still living in the past (fist shaking n' all) then I'll have to move on. But by that time you'll probably be offering 11G wireless so perhaps you really are on to something after all.

    25. A.L
      Posted 28/01/2010 at 8:32 am | Permalink | Reply

      "Disclaimer: I am an Exetel agent and sell their products."

      Should have said this first would have saved me reading the rubbish.

    26. Rob
      Posted 28/01/2010 at 9:14 am | Permalink | Reply

      “Ultimately what the blog and John Linton himself represents is the pure, unadulterated voice of the liberal-minded traditional Australian small business owner.”

      Linton's views on 3G broadband make sense, However his practice of outsourcing doesn't.

      As it stands, 3G Broadband is the only way to not have a fixed line phone to get Broadband in rural areas.(at least until the NBN is built, if it ever does get built)

      As for the outsourcing matter, Internode supports Australian Jobs!!! (unlike Exetel)

      Sure, you may pay a premium (mind you, not much more than Exetel) – but Internode's service is Excellent.

      At least I know when I contact Internode Support, I am talking to somebody in Adelaide. Plus I don't have to fear the Exetel' "3 strikes and you're out" policy approach to "downloading content" .

    27. Posted 28/01/2010 at 10:17 am | Permalink | Reply

      I agree that a lot of people use wireless 3G these days, I just hooked up my father in law in fact.

      However I disagree that mobility is the primary reason for this uptake.

      I think the reason is price and simplicity.

      3G plans are damn cheap for Ma n Pa who only read/send email and surf the web a little.

      3G USB devices are also very simple to use and install. ADSL providers and modem manufacturers could take a leaf from their book.

      3G however, when you start to talk larger quotas of use is very expensive and generally slower than ADSL.

      Heavy residential users really have no choice other than ADSL when using 10GB+ data a month.

      The NBN would blow speed comparisons of fixed to mobile out of the water.

      We still need fibre to remote locations at the very least, even if 3G/4G etc was to be used, the data has to get to the phone tower somehow. Unless wireless can offer me 20mbit connection speed continuously with 30-40GB a month data for around $60 a month, sorry.

      Mobility is a myth, unless you surf more than waves at the beach.

    28. Posted 28/01/2010 at 8:06 pm | Permalink | Reply

      I will come clean why I hate KRudd, KRudd challenged to write a post where I say anything nice about my customers or my agents. It was like eating my own sh@t, and I hate him for it.

      As far as supporting Australian jobs goes, Sri Lanka is a lovely holiday destination, I often go there without the wife and pretends to work. Daddie wants some candy

    29. Fungyo
      Posted 20/02/2010 at 2:49 am | Permalink | Reply

      @seeknbuy.com.au “If you don’t steal content, you have nothing to fear.”

      Haha, you are clueless.
      You’ll drop that line once you join the many others from the US and maybe soon here, that got Media Mafia extortion letters, although they did nothing wrong and may not even own a computer or are dead.
      Wake up, people get wrongly accused of things all the time.
      You’re just like those non-thinking fools who are clueless to identity theft, who don’t believe in privacy because they believe, “If you are not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to hide”. Ever heard the phrase “anything you say/do, can and WILL be USED AGAINST YOU”?
      The media Mafia believe YOU OWE them money, regardless if you are not downloading without their consent and blindly consume their garbage. That is IF you can buy it here for a reasonable price or at all.
      Pull your head out of your ….!

      Mr JL is a moron. Sending any notices from crooked corporations regarding unproven illegal activity, using questionable (possibly illegal) means is disrespectful to his paying customers, a real slap in the face.
      Shaping legitimate net traffic i.e. torrents is pathetic.
      Three strikes is unjust.

    30. Neil Royle
      Posted 23/04/2010 at 8:22 pm | Permalink | Reply

      According to NBN Tasmania’s own documentation it claims that with the consent of the property owner it will arrange installation of a “thin optic fibre cable” to a box on the outside of the owner’s premises, not just to the node.

      The return deadline for consent was Friday 16 April 2010 after which a connection fee may apply to the property owner.

      Sadly, neither the consent form nor the NBN Tasmania website at http://www.nbntasmania.com.au has a postal address to return the form if the Pre-paid envelope was misplaced by the householder/property owner.

      So, I ponder the number of households now not fibre connected due to some poor marketing by NBN Tasmania which may badly skew take-up results.

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