Exetel has joined ranks with Internode and TPG with respect to the limited filtering scheme being rolled out by Telstra and Optus, with the ISP’s chief executive John Linton today stating it would not implement the scheme unless required to do so by law, and describing the industry association backing the project as “a bunch of wankers with nothing better to do with their time than pointlessly pontificate”.

Along with Telstra, Optus has pledged to implement a voluntary filtering framework developed by the ISP industry’s peak representative body, the Internet Industry Association. The filter, which is being seen as a more moderate industry approach developed in reaction to the Federal Government’s much more comprehensive filter scheme, will see the ISPs block a “worst of the worst” list of child pornography sites generated by international police agency Interpol.

However, a number of other ISPs, such as Internode and TPG, have taken a strong stand against the project, stating they will only implement the scheme if the law requires them to do so. iiNet has also cautiously stated that it will comply with the law but has stopped short of backing the scheme.

Today, Exetel chief executive Linton said his company would do “whatever the law requires it to do”. “As far as I know, subject to correction, Australian law not only does not require Exetel to ban any IP address without a Federal warrant and should we do so would expose Exetel to action by people who are might claim to be inconvenienced by such action(s),” he said.

Linton further said that if anyone — “certainly an organisation with the resources and clout of Interpol” — knew the IP address of sites hosting child pornography, then they would presumably be in “a far better position” to shut those sites down than a small Australian ISP like Exetel.

Those promulgating filter schemes in Australia have regularly highlighted the difficulty of shutting down sites hosting objectionable content when they are located in international jurisdictions without cooperation agreements with Australia, with commonly cited countries including those in the former Soviet bloc in Eastern Europe, for example. However, Linton rejected this argument for filtering content in Australia.

“And yes I am aware of the whining about ‘rogue countries’ — such whimpers are made by people ignorant as to how the internet actually works – a 12 year old could close down those sites (or any site) in a few minutes,” he said.

It’s not the first time Linton has opposed filtering initiatives. In November 2008, as the debate around the Federal Government’s much wider mandatory internet filtering scheme was gaining full force, Linton wrote a harshly satirical article about the initiative, noting that his company had been invited to “the fourth Reich’s official sub-site where we could find the details of how to participate in Herr Krudd’s and Obersturmfuhrer Conroy’s scheme to purge the Fatherland of the filth emanating from the diseased brains of the untermenscen”.

“… is that the sound of a heavy military truck screeching to a halt and the sound of jackboots on the drive?” Linton added.

Today, Linton also criticised the organisation promulgating the Interpol filtering scheme — the Internet Industry Association — which represents ISPs and other organisations with an interest in the development of the Internet in Australia. The IIA stated last week that its filter scheme would be implemented for between 80 and 90 percent of Australians this year.

“The IIA is simply a bunch of wankers with nothing better to do with their time than pointlessly pontificate,” said Linton. “Can you tell me anything useful it has ever brought about?”

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1. Matthew Jones
   Posted 07/07/2011 at 11:52 am | Permalink | Reply

   There’s no morning like a John Linton morning. It’s stuff like this that makes me want to resubscribe to his blog for a daily chuckle. :D

   • Renai LeMay
     Posted 07/07/2011 at 12:05 pm | Permalink | Reply

     There are certainly enough gems in there to make it worth it :)

2. Michael Wyres
   Posted 07/07/2011 at 11:54 am | Permalink | Reply

   John certainly knows how to call a spade a “f#%king shovel”… :o)

3. deteego
   Posted 07/07/2011 at 2:42 pm | Permalink | Reply

   ““a bunch of wankers with nothing better to do with their time than pointlessly pontificate”

   That made my day

   • alain
     Posted 07/07/2011 at 3:34 pm | Permalink | Reply

     Oh for a minuteI thought you were referring to posters in Delimiter.

     :)

     • PointZeroOne
       Posted 07/07/2011 at 4:00 pm | Permalink | Reply

       You do realise you yourself are a poster on Delimiter Alain….

       • alain
         Posted 08/07/2011 at 11:22 am | Permalink | Reply

         Jeez thanks for that .01, and after all this time there I was thinking this was Whirlpool.

         • RS
           Posted 09/07/2011 at 12:02 am | Permalink | Reply

           Yes you probably wouldn’t know any better… and you also think the NBN is bad… so that’s 2/2 wrong straight up, before we even start to add all the contradictions and FUD!

4. toshP300
   Posted 07/07/2011 at 5:01 pm | Permalink | Reply

   *“And yes I am aware of the whining about ‘rogue countries’ — such whimpers are made by people ignorant as to how the internet actually works – a 12 year old could close down those sites (or any site) in a few minutes,” he said.*

   there’re three ways:

   (i) filter at destination (ISP DNS filter)

   (ii) filter at origin (pressure uplink providers to disconnect the offending ISP host)

   (iii) DDOS the website (the wikileaks approach)

   have i missed anything?

   • Nightkhaos
     Posted 07/07/2011 at 6:06 pm | Permalink | Reply

     Yes, Filter all paths. (An) upstream provider(s) can (agree to) filter a set of content at (the) POI(s) to prevent those upstream from accessing the content.

   • PeterA
     Posted 11/07/2011 at 8:23 pm | Permalink | Reply

     I would actually support the DDOS option.

     Cause enough traffic from enough locations *outside* the offending countries, and watch those countries close off those sites themselves.

     Who would host a website that caused every other website they hosted to go offline? Pretty quickly there wouldn’t be any money in hosting CP (or whatever they are trying to stop at the time).

     Government sanctioned DDOS… maybe a bunch of countries could get together and sanction their militaries to DOS people! Declare war on internet child porn.

5. Mr1979
   Posted 08/07/2011 at 8:15 am | Permalink | Reply

   Rare for me to say this but I totally agree with JL on this one.
   Especially “a bunch of wankers with nothing better to do with their time than pointlessly pontificate”

   Pebble to gold that one. :)

6. Harquebus
   Posted 09/07/2011 at 2:50 pm | Permalink | Reply

   The money is running out. Rationality will prevail. Hang in there guys.

   • twig
     Posted 10/07/2011 at 9:36 pm | Permalink | Reply

     Don’t be silly, that’s what the carbon tax is for.

7. Matt
   Posted 13/07/2011 at 5:29 pm | Permalink | Reply

   Good on you John, tell it like it is. Our pollies should take a lesson from him.

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