Falsehoods of the day

[KarlParticipant]

Turnbull, 7/3/13

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/malcolm-turnbull-on-changes-to-the-nbn/4557604
NBN will cost $50bn plus, a lot more if it’s allowed to be completed.
Rollout in Corangamite electorate has been excluded from the rollout because it is a Liberal seat.
Original cost of fibre to the premises plan ~4 years ago was $12bn, with total project cost of $15bn including wireless and satellite.
Vectoring is a software solution.

[Hubert CumberdaleParticipant]

My favorite part was when he said “If you can deliver people speeds that are MORE THAN ADEQUATE for their purposes under much less cost and much quicker that’s obviously a better outcome” so one minute he is saying people dont need faster speeds and that they’ll use a mix of technologies and then the next he is actually endorsing FttP. He just wants it built quicker. Sounds like he is very confused…

[AutocratParticipant]

Corangamite? Darren Cheeseman isn’t it?

[KarlParticipant]

Abbott, 7/4/13, maybe this is a monthly thing?

http://www.afr.com/p/technology/business_calls_for_nbn_certainty_NCmRFbiAfd3XGuCugylCfO
Says the NBN is not going to give us fast, affordable broadband.
Implies a FttN policy would not be a monopoly.
Says every street is being dug up (again).
Says NBN plans cost 3 times as much (again).
Says there were 10,000 people on the NBN in December.

[Anonymous]

Mr Turnbull may be a reasonable politician, but he is not a telecommunications technician by a long shot. Using the old copper wiring to bring NBN is like putting lemonade in a glass of top quality champagne.

I talk form the lower end of the food chain, but my hands on experience may give some light to the problems t hat is inherent in Turnbull’s claims.

I worked as linesman on the Sydney County Council, adn t hen on the Northern Rivers County council. When the NRCC needed to change a pole with all it sown wiring on board, they would encounter PMG or Telstra phone lines attached to t he same poles.

Now, we would request the appropriate technicians from the phone providers, to come and deal with their own lines; however as it almost always turned out, these technicians would not arrive until we,the electrical trained, but not phone line trained, would have already removed the domestic phone lines form t he power pole, twisting disconnected copper wires together in t he hope that the Telstra techos would fix it all later. But alack and alas, it always seemed that with the late a arrival of these men in the morning carried on to the reconnection of the phones lines in the afternoon.We were not phone techos, and we only redid any connections with twisting some wires together, some times they worked, many times they only half worked.

Now, I worked for the NRCC for 28 years, 20 years as a linesman, the amount of “twisted” connections that I was responsible for still remain as the biggest problem with phone connections to this day. Almost every fault is one caused by poor connections, by corroded connections because of improper jointing, and even, in the electrical side of things, lines being connected in a reversed polarity where the phone will work, but not very well.

I was not the only Linesman on the NRCC, and I was not the only Linesman that was involved in pole changes. Just imagine the amount of common poles ( Power and phone) in Australia. Just imagine us untrained in phone connection linesmen fiddling with all the pole phone connections, and then put in Turnbull’s suggestion, and like me you will hardly hold yourself together from laughing at Mr Turnbull’s proposal…The worth of the old copper connections is only in the worth of the sale of the copper.

I was without ADSl for 10 days, recently, guess where the problem was? It was a pole connection three streets away

If anyone is going to get sucked into this hair brained idea of the opposition they may as well come up with a method to reduce the road toll by banning motor vehicles on roads. Whoops, I shouldn’t have said that.

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