Censorship at Technology Spectator

[KarlParticipant]

When this article was published, I made a comment picking apart some of the obvious misdirection from MT: http://www.technologyspectator.com.au/labors-nbn-own-goal

The comment has been removed for no reason I can think of. Happily it was still on Google’s cached version of the page, I’ll copypasta it here and maybe somebody can work out why it was removed.

Wow, some truly spectacular strawmanning and misdirection going on here, kudos Mr Turbull.

"One of Senator Conroy's techniques is to avoid the real issue about the NBN which is huge costs and long delays in the rollout."
He is not addressing those issues here, he is addressing take-up. The fact that every press release doesn't cover every possible issue in existence, does not mean he is avoiding other issues.

"The fact that people use the NBN is hardly surprising - nobody is suggesting that there is no demand for broadband at all."
In fact, they are. Most of the newspapers enjoy claiming it regularly, The Australian was the most recent, I'm sure you're aware. Your own party leader quite enjoys telling anybody who will listen that people don't want it.

"The argument against his approach to building the NBN is that it is costing far too much and taking far too long than a more rational strategy would take."
That's a very persuasive argument. What a shame there is no evidence to back it up. For all your criticism in this article, you haven't been able to provide one piece of evidence that points to anything meaningful. Namely:
- you haven't proven or even suggested that the corporate plan's projections are inaccurate, you have simply pointed out that it's ambitious and hope the reader will take their own steps to reach "too ambitious to be possible"
- you haven't provided any evidence that any nationwide rollout could be done faster or cheaper. In other cases where you do try to provide this evidence, all you give us is FttN rollouts in other countries; countries where the FttN is being rolled-out by the incumbent telco who already owns the copper network. You have been unable to say why these examples are applicable to Australia's situation or geography.

"Around the world, the key challenge for fibre to the premises (FTTP) rollouts is that most consumers do not currently need the very high speeds it makes available, and are therefore not willing to pay the very high prices required for such networks to earn a commercial return on invested capital."
That may be true around the world, but it is not true in Australia for the simple fact that NBN plans are cheaper than the ADSL + copper line rental it is replacing, unlike the rest of the world where fibre is commonly more expensive.

"He nowhere admits the key reason for this is the cold harsh reality that his anti-competitive broadband policy, unique in the world, involves closing down rival fixed line networks once the NBN has been rolled out."
Why should he admit something that isn't true? Simply because you have said it? The copper has not been switched off yet, therefore that is not the reason for these early take-up figures. Logic! You should try it out sometime.

"75 per cent of users in these districts haven’t been persuaded that fibre offers anything worth switching over to ahead of the last possible moment when they have no other choice?"
Or simply they are locked into pre-existing ADSL contracts. Or hell, maybe they believe the FUD that NBN plans are more expensive so haven't bothered to look into it - they might not even know the copper will be switched off for this reason.

"rather than committing to a particular technical solution (GPON FTTP) regardless of cost."
Are you forgetting that they were originally committed to FttN, but they found that it was too expensive for what we would have got? I guess the popular line that 'Labor recklessly picked FttP and have never wavered despite it's eleventy billion dollar cost' is much more convenient for you.

[Abel AdamskiParticipant]

Karl
Note all but one of the most commented items have been removed, Imentioned what was happening on
http://delimiter.com.au/2012/06/05/coalition-will-complete-nbn-objective-says-turnbull/#comment-554253

NEWS LTD has purchased and now owns the Spectator Stable, I have been unable to post on the Business Spectator or Climate Spectator since soon after the sale, Looks like Murdochs henchmen have finally turned their attention to Technology Spectator

[KarlParticipant]

Ah I see, Limited News got their talons in. Just another news source to cross off the list I guess.

[KarlParticipant]

http://www.technologyspectator.com.au/nbn-2013
The other example, which Abel mentioned in his comment.

[Abel AdamskiParticipant]

I have tried to make several relevant comments on that NBN in 2013 item to no avail, into moderation to disappear into the great beyond. Last relevant post was similar to my post on ZDNet

The Last comment on P3
http://www.zdnet.com/au/turnbulls-media-crusade-masks-libs-nbn-incoherence-7000008332/

Never appeared.

[Renai LeMayKeymaster]

Sadly, this is what happens when over-zealous editors implement pre-moderation systems to stop their sites getting sued. ZDNet implement automatic moderation on comments after I left. I fought hard against it while I was there, but they still did it. This kind of crap is why I don’t have pre-moderation on Delimiter. I want to encourage a free and open (but polite) discussion.

[Abel AdamskiParticipant]

And thank you for that Renai
We are all enriched by your contribution

[Abel AdamskiParticipant]

hen of course we have the New Technology Spectator comment in this item, only comment that I got through was on the Mobile/WiFi aspect

http://www.technologyspectator.com.au/top-ten-tech-predictions-2013

Read the NBN sections, obviously limited operational experience, single vendor infrastructure solution is usually more reliable and consistent, who the Vendor is depends on the results of tenders and trials., besides terminal equipment provider changed from Tassie trials .
Note he is stating that the NBN will go ahead as planned except it will be 60% FTTH and of the 30% FTTN, that will mostly be MDU’s, completely different to what MT stated when he stated that even the contacts in place would be changed where possible to FTTN.

Funny when I tried to point out these and other salient on record facts and statements that comment went into moderation and has never appeared

[Abel AdamskiParticipant]

Credit where due.
I have been able to post the following on Technology Spectator, in moderation on business Spectator. wonder if they stay there.?

Malcolm
Today the NBN has lost Dan Fleming, sad but necessary, he is brilliant and focused on the most efficient and best long term operation, unfortunately due to the destructive nature of the vitriolic attacks by the opposition and News Ltd vicious destructive attacks to protect and build their media monopoly, especially in cable TV it has become political with short term results being critical to the survival of one of the most important infrastructure platform for the Nation and the economy now and for the decades to come.
Your pathetic Coalition Policy is just as fatally flawed and dysfunctional as that half baked disaster in waiting labelled as OPEL. It is the Government responsibvility to provide the National Infrastructure to enable optimal growth of the Nation and the economy. The Private sector is only interested in ROI and profits as such cannot provide that which is needed by it’s very nature without massive taxpayer gifts for eternity

For once stand up for Australia to those ideological fanatics in your party, but especially to that creature Rupert Murdoch and his henchmen and minions who seek to rule this nation by proxy and control and manipulate our every thought and opinion.

Stand up for Australia and be a man of integrity, support the NBN as it is and defuse the political B.S and do something worthwhile for Australia

http://www.technologyspectator.com.au/nbn-2013

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