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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Nepotism&#8221;: Audit blasts CenITex culture</title>
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		<title>By: Ausgnome</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/10/24/nepotism-audit-blasts-cenitex-culture/#comment-513701</link>
		<dc:creator>Ausgnome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having worked with CenITex from it&#039;s original days as SSC. The promise of  IT cost reduction has never occurred in fact cost are extremely high comparable to market costs.  The main issue with CenItex is the same with any monopoly.  A significant cost to projects comes from trying to shoe horn them into the CenItex supported product range.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having worked with CenITex from it&#8217;s original days as SSC. The promise of  IT cost reduction has never occurred in fact cost are extremely high comparable to market costs.  The main issue with CenItex is the same with any monopoly.  A significant cost to projects comes from trying to shoe horn them into the CenItex supported product range.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Healy</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/10/24/nepotism-audit-blasts-cenitex-culture/#comment-513066</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Healy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 23:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tom, that was an interesting insight. I&#039;m glad you contributed. 

You other guys, what&#039;s with the cynicism? Tom is clearly expressing a professional analysis based on personal experience. This is exactly the sort of expert opinion the IT industry needs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, that was an interesting insight. I&#8217;m glad you contributed. </p>
<p>You other guys, what&#8217;s with the cynicism? Tom is clearly expressing a professional analysis based on personal experience. This is exactly the sort of expert opinion the IT industry needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Renai LeMay</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/10/24/nepotism-audit-blasts-cenitex-culture/#comment-513064</link>
		<dc:creator>Renai LeMay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 23:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hey Tom, yes, I can see your profile, but everyone else here can&#039;t, and I can&#039;t disclose information without your consent ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey Tom, yes, I can see your profile, but everyone else here can&#8217;t, and I can&#8217;t disclose information without your consent &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/10/24/nepotism-audit-blasts-cenitex-culture/#comment-513055</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 23:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello Renai, my public profile is on Linkedin. I assume you are the editor so you can see my email address containing my name.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Renai, my public profile is on Linkedin. I assume you are the editor so you can see my email address containing my name.</p>
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		<title>By: Renai LeMay</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/10/24/nepotism-audit-blasts-cenitex-culture/#comment-513042</link>
		<dc:creator>Renai LeMay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 23:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hey Tom,

I think it&#039;s about time for some disclosure as to who you are.

Renai]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey Tom,</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s about time for some disclosure as to who you are.</p>
<p>Renai</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/10/24/nepotism-audit-blasts-cenitex-culture/#comment-512985</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 21:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your comment, but it would add a lot more value if you could comment on the topic instead of making totally incorrect assertions about my motives for writing the article. Do you have a view on the topic?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment, but it would add a lot more value if you could comment on the topic instead of making totally incorrect assertions about my motives for writing the article. Do you have a view on the topic?</p>
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		<title>By: Sure thing mate.</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/10/24/nepotism-audit-blasts-cenitex-culture/#comment-512660</link>
		<dc:creator>Sure thing mate.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 10:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tom I was prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt and read your comments with a grain of salt - that was until a) you felt the need to actively provide a statement that you dont work for nor have affilliations with interested parties. And b) you use of the words &quot;transforming, uplifting and replacing its business model&quot;. which just makes you sound like a paid comms/marketing consulting suit that would happly sell anything to anyone passing by - or if you asked me what the time was I would be very wary that you might take my watch!
So thank for those comments...but i am now ever more cautious of them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom I was prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt and read your comments with a grain of salt &#8211; that was until a) you felt the need to actively provide a statement that you dont work for nor have affilliations with interested parties. And b) you use of the words &#8220;transforming, uplifting and replacing its business model&#8221;. which just makes you sound like a paid comms/marketing consulting suit that would happly sell anything to anyone passing by &#8211; or if you asked me what the time was I would be very wary that you might take my watch!<br />
So thank for those comments&#8230;but i am now ever more cautious of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I said CenITex was transforming, uplifting and replacing its business model. The business model had been defined and agreed prior to the establishment of the State Owned Enterprise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I said CenITex was transforming, uplifting and replacing its business model. The business model had been defined and agreed prior to the establishment of the State Owned Enterprise.</p>
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		<title>By: Thateus</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/10/24/nepotism-audit-blasts-cenitex-culture/#comment-512567</link>
		<dc:creator>Thateus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a bit surprised to see you saying that Cenitex was setup WITHOUT a business model? And it was trying to create a business model with processes while it was taking on business?

Sounds more like a startup than a business...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a bit surprised to see you saying that Cenitex was setup WITHOUT a business model? And it was trying to create a business model with processes while it was taking on business?</p>
<p>Sounds more like a startup than a business&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/10/24/nepotism-audit-blasts-cenitex-culture/#comment-512482</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 05:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ombudsman’s Report and media coverage overshadows challenges and good work

The Victorian Ombudsman’s Report on CenITex has been released and I felt that I should try to put things into perspective given that I worked at CenITex from its foundation until around July 2011.
 
My first comment is that apparently there were a few greedy individuals employed or contracted by CenITex who rorted the system for their own individual gain. I despise this type of behaviour and those people involved should be dealt with in accordance with the law. 

The press has been very active in highlighting these issues and other inefficiencies at CenITex, but it is usually old news just being recycled in another format.
 
I thought it was time to put things into perspective given that these few “bad apples” are, in my view, overshadowing some of the significant good work of CenITex during the time I was there.
 
Firstly, the establishment of CenITex was a very courageous and ambitious undertaking by the Victorian Government. It was established to remove ICT duplication, reduce costs and streamline services to Government Departments and the community. There was a recognition that centralising the ICT function would require massive infrastructure and service delivery transformation in parallel to transitioning a huge number of people (VPS and contractors) into the centralised Agency (CenITex). 
 
There were also very tight timeframes imposed on the Program by the Department of Treasury and Finance DTF (GSD) who were funding the transformation activities. This transformation was to be named the ETS Program (Efficient Technology Services). 
 
The scale of change required very strong leadership, and strong support from DTF. We had very strong leadership from our CEO Peter Blades, but sadly CenITex did not receive strong backing from DTF. 
 
As each Government Department or Agency was approached to commence the Due Diligence activity before transitioning into CenITex, we encountered significant resistance from most of the Departments. This caused the ETS Transition Team to waste an enormous amount of time (and money) trying to convince the Departments to co-operate and to deliver critical information so that costs and risk could be effectively determined. During these roadblocks DTF rarely intervened. 
 
After much wasted time, several of the Departments’ IT functions did move across to CenITex, but in most cases the in-coming costs of the infrastructure and services that CenITex was going to take over could still not be accurately determined by the transitioning Departments. (They did not know their own costs). As a consequence of this CenITex found some big surprises when they started paying their salaries and other expenses. 
 
During the time of transitioning the Departments into CenITex, CenITex was also transforming and uplifting its own Service Management environment with the replacement of tools, processes and business model as well as designing and developing a Whole of Victorian Government (WoVG) platform for infrastructure.  
 
In addition, because CenITex was a fairly new entity, it was establishing its own internal processes, based on a hybrid VPS/Commercial model. All of this activity was being overseen by DTF. It was inevitable that, particularly in the early days and because of the massive amount of change that was going on, some things were going to “slip through the cracks”. 

Everyone that I worked with at CenITex (remember there are around 600 people there now) were consummate, highly committed professionals, whose sole interest was to ensure that the ambitious agenda set out by DTF was achieved.
 
It is annoying therefore when I read the recent press headlines that do not recognise the hard work and professionalism of all  but a small number of CenITex people who are now charged with running and maintaining the majority of Government ICT infrastructure in the state of Victoria.
 
CenITex should be supported, not denigrated. Its achievements to date have exceeded just about any other Government Shared Services function in Australia. A massive undertaking that has made considerable ground despite the lack of co-operation from the Government Departments and the lack of Governance and support from DTF.
 
The Government should accelerate (not stall) the Agenda for ICT centralisation by investing in new technology and processes as the ultimate cost savings are enormous.
 
For the record:
 
(I do not work for CenITex, nor do I have any affiliations with any vendor or individual currently doing business there).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ombudsman’s Report and media coverage overshadows challenges and good work</p>
<p>The Victorian Ombudsman’s Report on CenITex has been released and I felt that I should try to put things into perspective given that I worked at CenITex from its foundation until around July 2011.</p>
<p>My first comment is that apparently there were a few greedy individuals employed or contracted by CenITex who rorted the system for their own individual gain. I despise this type of behaviour and those people involved should be dealt with in accordance with the law. </p>
<p>The press has been very active in highlighting these issues and other inefficiencies at CenITex, but it is usually old news just being recycled in another format.</p>
<p>I thought it was time to put things into perspective given that these few “bad apples” are, in my view, overshadowing some of the significant good work of CenITex during the time I was there.</p>
<p>Firstly, the establishment of CenITex was a very courageous and ambitious undertaking by the Victorian Government. It was established to remove ICT duplication, reduce costs and streamline services to Government Departments and the community. There was a recognition that centralising the ICT function would require massive infrastructure and service delivery transformation in parallel to transitioning a huge number of people (VPS and contractors) into the centralised Agency (CenITex). </p>
<p>There were also very tight timeframes imposed on the Program by the Department of Treasury and Finance DTF (GSD) who were funding the transformation activities. This transformation was to be named the ETS Program (Efficient Technology Services). </p>
<p>The scale of change required very strong leadership, and strong support from DTF. We had very strong leadership from our CEO Peter Blades, but sadly CenITex did not receive strong backing from DTF. </p>
<p>As each Government Department or Agency was approached to commence the Due Diligence activity before transitioning into CenITex, we encountered significant resistance from most of the Departments. This caused the ETS Transition Team to waste an enormous amount of time (and money) trying to convince the Departments to co-operate and to deliver critical information so that costs and risk could be effectively determined. During these roadblocks DTF rarely intervened. </p>
<p>After much wasted time, several of the Departments’ IT functions did move across to CenITex, but in most cases the in-coming costs of the infrastructure and services that CenITex was going to take over could still not be accurately determined by the transitioning Departments. (They did not know their own costs). As a consequence of this CenITex found some big surprises when they started paying their salaries and other expenses. </p>
<p>During the time of transitioning the Departments into CenITex, CenITex was also transforming and uplifting its own Service Management environment with the replacement of tools, processes and business model as well as designing and developing a Whole of Victorian Government (WoVG) platform for infrastructure.  </p>
<p>In addition, because CenITex was a fairly new entity, it was establishing its own internal processes, based on a hybrid VPS/Commercial model. All of this activity was being overseen by DTF. It was inevitable that, particularly in the early days and because of the massive amount of change that was going on, some things were going to “slip through the cracks”. </p>
<p>Everyone that I worked with at CenITex (remember there are around 600 people there now) were consummate, highly committed professionals, whose sole interest was to ensure that the ambitious agenda set out by DTF was achieved.</p>
<p>It is annoying therefore when I read the recent press headlines that do not recognise the hard work and professionalism of all  but a small number of CenITex people who are now charged with running and maintaining the majority of Government ICT infrastructure in the state of Victoria.</p>
<p>CenITex should be supported, not denigrated. Its achievements to date have exceeded just about any other Government Shared Services function in Australia. A massive undertaking that has made considerable ground despite the lack of co-operation from the Government Departments and the lack of Governance and support from DTF.</p>
<p>The Government should accelerate (not stall) the Agenda for ICT centralisation by investing in new technology and processes as the ultimate cost savings are enormous.</p>
<p>For the record:</p>
<p>(I do not work for CenITex, nor do I have any affiliations with any vendor or individual currently doing business there).</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/10/24/nepotism-audit-blasts-cenitex-culture/#comment-512218</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 22:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Spot on ITveteran. Over the years that I have spent on both sides of the fence in Govt projects (on the inside and out as a supplier), it is the lack of accountability that you mention that throws most large projects off the rails.
The leaked email from the CEO that Renai has posted separately reflects this. A lot of &quot;our&quot;, &quot;we&quot;, &quot;leadership team&quot; language. Not much &quot;I&quot; or &quot;me&quot; language demonstrating leadership and accountability. Reads like it is all someone else fault.
My 2 bob.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on ITveteran. Over the years that I have spent on both sides of the fence in Govt projects (on the inside and out as a supplier), it is the lack of accountability that you mention that throws most large projects off the rails.<br />
The leaked email from the CEO that Renai has posted separately reflects this. A lot of &#8220;our&#8221;, &#8220;we&#8221;, &#8220;leadership team&#8221; language. Not much &#8220;I&#8221; or &#8220;me&#8221; language demonstrating leadership and accountability. Reads like it is all someone else fault.<br />
My 2 bob.</p>
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		<title>By: who would have thought</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/10/24/nepotism-audit-blasts-cenitex-culture/#comment-511833</link>
		<dc:creator>who would have thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like Queensland Gov IT and in particular Queensland Health IT - are we then not surprised by the failure at taxpayers expense?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like Queensland Gov IT and in particular Queensland Health IT &#8211; are we then not surprised by the failure at taxpayers expense?</p>
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		<title>By: ITveteran</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/10/24/nepotism-audit-blasts-cenitex-culture/#comment-511776</link>
		<dc:creator>ITveteran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CenITex was doomed from the beginning. Whilst the objective of centralising IT offers the best opportunity to drive lower cost, the project was too large (consolidate 14 IT departments into 1). The leadership within CenITex did not see the risk and seemed more intent on showing activity at any cost. I watched over a couple of years (2008 - 2010) as projects were launched and then plodded along missing milestones and not even getting near to achieving the original business case. Despite the highly paid people leading these projects there did not appear to be any accountability worse their decisions were often tied to their relationships in the industry. The most notable blunder, from where I sat was watching, was a storage tender being awarded to NetApp and replacing existing perfectly good storage equipment in many government departments. There was no thought about using the existing equipment - rather just scrap it and waste taxpayers&#039; money and buy new equipment that does basically the same thing for tens of millions of dollars. I am not even sure there is anything worth saving from 4 years of spending.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CenITex was doomed from the beginning. Whilst the objective of centralising IT offers the best opportunity to drive lower cost, the project was too large (consolidate 14 IT departments into 1). The leadership within CenITex did not see the risk and seemed more intent on showing activity at any cost. I watched over a couple of years (2008 &#8211; 2010) as projects were launched and then plodded along missing milestones and not even getting near to achieving the original business case. Despite the highly paid people leading these projects there did not appear to be any accountability worse their decisions were often tied to their relationships in the industry. The most notable blunder, from where I sat was watching, was a storage tender being awarded to NetApp and replacing existing perfectly good storage equipment in many government departments. There was no thought about using the existing equipment &#8211; rather just scrap it and waste taxpayers&#8217; money and buy new equipment that does basically the same thing for tens of millions of dollars. I am not even sure there is anything worth saving from 4 years of spending.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Wyres</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/10/24/nepotism-audit-blasts-cenitex-culture/#comment-511707</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Wyres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 07:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Huh?

You hope there&#039;s &lt;i&gt;more&lt;/i&gt; rorting of public funds?

If you read the report, this happened in only one arm of CenITex, and that those accused have all either been dismissed, have resigned, or didn&#039;t have contracts renewed.

As a Victorian taxpayer, I for one hope this is all that there is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh?</p>
<p>You hope there&#8217;s <i>more</i> rorting of public funds?</p>
<p>If you read the report, this happened in only one arm of CenITex, and that those accused have all either been dismissed, have resigned, or didn&#8217;t have contracts renewed.</p>
<p>As a Victorian taxpayer, I for one hope this is all that there is.</p>
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		<title>By: ausgnome</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/10/24/nepotism-audit-blasts-cenitex-culture/#comment-511673</link>
		<dc:creator>ausgnome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 06:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hopefully this is just the beginning and as it&#039;s realy only the tip of the Iceburg with state IT and our Centre of IT EXcellance]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully this is just the beginning and as it&#8217;s realy only the tip of the Iceburg with state IT and our Centre of IT EXcellance</p>
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