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	<title>Comments on: Stop &#8220;hiding&#8221; your NBN policy, Conroy tells Turnbull</title>
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		<title>By: Renai LeMay</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/09/05/stop-hiding-your-nbn-policy-conroy-tells-turnbull/#comment-493236</link>
		<dc:creator>Renai LeMay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Old news.

http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/23/turnbull-in-conflict-of-interest-investment/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old news.</p>
<p><a href="http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/23/turnbull-in-conflict-of-interest-investment/" rel="nofollow">http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/23/turnbull-in-conflict-of-interest-investment/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Abel Adamski</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/09/05/stop-hiding-your-nbn-policy-conroy-tells-turnbull/#comment-493220</link>
		<dc:creator>Abel Adamski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 10:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://bigpondnews.com/articles/Finance/2012/09/10/Turnbull_invests_in_another_Euro_telco_793588.html]]></description>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/09/05/stop-hiding-your-nbn-policy-conroy-tells-turnbull/#comment-492213</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 00:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes great idea...

Let&#039;s vote for party&#039;s (either) who don&#039;t tell us how much worse off we may be and then cross our fingers that &quot;someone else&quot; will get shafted not me :/

Imo this is the sort of apathy which has allowed politicians to hide their agendas...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes great idea&#8230;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s vote for party&#8217;s (either) who don&#8217;t tell us how much worse off we may be and then cross our fingers that &#8220;someone else&#8221; will get shafted not me :/</p>
<p>Imo this is the sort of apathy which has allowed politicians to hide their agendas&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Abel Adamski</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/09/05/stop-hiding-your-nbn-policy-conroy-tells-turnbull/#comment-492207</link>
		<dc:creator>Abel Adamski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 23:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[+100]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+100</p>
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		<title>By: socrates</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/09/05/stop-hiding-your-nbn-policy-conroy-tells-turnbull/#comment-492025</link>
		<dc:creator>socrates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2012 05:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Rita: &#039;if you want to keep multiple phone lines at home... they will be forced to have NBN whether they want it or not in order to keep a landline, and then to keep the multiple lines they will have to pay to have their house rewired.&#039;

Not sure about &#039;thousands&#039; of oldies with multiple lines; did you mean to refer to those who for convenience have several sockets on their home line?

In any case, an NBN connection won&#039;t make any difference, since the existing CPE will be connected to the ONT in the same way that the present line connection is made.  So whether you meant to say &#039;multiple lines&#039; or &#039;multiple outlets on their home line&#039;, there will be little change needed to what they are doing now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rita: &#8216;if you want to keep multiple phone lines at home&#8230; they will be forced to have NBN whether they want it or not in order to keep a landline, and then to keep the multiple lines they will have to pay to have their house rewired.&#8217;</p>
<p>Not sure about &#8216;thousands&#8217; of oldies with multiple lines; did you mean to refer to those who for convenience have several sockets on their home line?</p>
<p>In any case, an NBN connection won&#8217;t make any difference, since the existing CPE will be connected to the ONT in the same way that the present line connection is made.  So whether you meant to say &#8216;multiple lines&#8217; or &#8216;multiple outlets on their home line&#8217;, there will be little change needed to what they are doing now.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/09/05/stop-hiding-your-nbn-policy-conroy-tells-turnbull/#comment-491843</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 11:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Rita, do you seriously think it is appropriate that we _vote_ for these people to run the country without having first had a chance to see and comment on their policy. You think it is right for the general population to have to figure out in a matter of days or weeks who should take the country forward? Meanwhile, the Chinese are planning _50 years ahead_? That is an insane position, and my kids deserve better than that. And you are correct, the NBN is NOT just the internet. Glad you understand that seriously important point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rita, do you seriously think it is appropriate that we _vote_ for these people to run the country without having first had a chance to see and comment on their policy. You think it is right for the general population to have to figure out in a matter of days or weeks who should take the country forward? Meanwhile, the Chinese are planning _50 years ahead_? That is an insane position, and my kids deserve better than that. And you are correct, the NBN is NOT just the internet. Glad you understand that seriously important point.</p>
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		<title>By: Rita</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/09/05/stop-hiding-your-nbn-policy-conroy-tells-turnbull/#comment-491829</link>
		<dc:creator>Rita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 09:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We did not hear until after the last election about many of the government&#039;s policies that have been since brought in, so I don&#039;t think the opposition should to release their policies now if they don&#039;t want to.

On another note, if you want to keep multiple phone lines at home (which thousands of older people who want to stay in their own homes have and want to keep for security) - they will be forced to have NBN whether they want it or not in order to keep a landline, and then to keep the multiple lines they will have to pay to have their house rewired.  NBN is not just the internet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We did not hear until after the last election about many of the government&#8217;s policies that have been since brought in, so I don&#8217;t think the opposition should to release their policies now if they don&#8217;t want to.</p>
<p>On another note, if you want to keep multiple phone lines at home (which thousands of older people who want to stay in their own homes have and want to keep for security) &#8211; they will be forced to have NBN whether they want it or not in order to keep a landline, and then to keep the multiple lines they will have to pay to have their house rewired.  NBN is not just the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Observer</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/09/05/stop-hiding-your-nbn-policy-conroy-tells-turnbull/#comment-491825</link>
		<dc:creator>Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 09:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In  speech at the University of Western Australia last night. Turnbull said:

&quot;I am not suggesting politicians are innately less accurate or truthful than anyone else. But rather that the system is not constraining, in fact it is all too often rewarding spin, exaggeration, misstatements,&quot; 

Talking about politicians again she suggested

&quot;It seems to me that we don&#039;t simply have a financial deficit, we have a deficit of trust.&quot;

So, let&#039;s move away from the rhetoric Malcom and tell us what you policy really is. That would a really good start.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In  speech at the University of Western Australia last night. Turnbull said:</p>
<p>&#8220;I am not suggesting politicians are innately less accurate or truthful than anyone else. But rather that the system is not constraining, in fact it is all too often rewarding spin, exaggeration, misstatements,&#8221; </p>
<p>Talking about politicians again she suggested</p>
<p>&#8220;It seems to me that we don&#8217;t simply have a financial deficit, we have a deficit of trust.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, let&#8217;s move away from the rhetoric Malcom and tell us what you policy really is. That would a really good start.</p>
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		<title>By: Renai LeMay</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/09/05/stop-hiding-your-nbn-policy-conroy-tells-turnbull/#comment-491757</link>
		<dc:creator>Renai LeMay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 06:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The two parties ALWAYS work together on initial policy, then take it internal for tweaks&quot;

I believe this statement to be factually inaccurate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The two parties ALWAYS work together on initial policy, then take it internal for tweaks&#8221;</p>
<p>I believe this statement to be factually inaccurate.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/09/05/stop-hiding-your-nbn-policy-conroy-tells-turnbull/#comment-491751</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 05:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The two parties ALWAYS work together on initial policy, then take it internal for tweaks&lt;/i&gt;

whaaaaaaa?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The two parties ALWAYS work together on initial policy, then take it internal for tweaks</i></p>
<p>whaaaaaaa?</p>
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		<title>By: Dawesi</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/09/05/stop-hiding-your-nbn-policy-conroy-tells-turnbull/#comment-491743</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawesi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 05:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree, there is no point airing it, as it&#039;s irrelevant until the election. It&#039;s like asking for the test at the end of the semester at the start so you can study, there&#039;s a time and place for everything, and this isn&#039;t it.

The two parties ALWAYS work together on initial policy, then take it internal for tweaks, so I&#039;m quite sure Conroy knows exactly what the Libs are going to smash him with at the election.

The ALP is still to come up with a viable NBN plan, so not sure why the pressure is on the libs anyway??

good humour this story is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, there is no point airing it, as it&#8217;s irrelevant until the election. It&#8217;s like asking for the test at the end of the semester at the start so you can study, there&#8217;s a time and place for everything, and this isn&#8217;t it.</p>
<p>The two parties ALWAYS work together on initial policy, then take it internal for tweaks, so I&#8217;m quite sure Conroy knows exactly what the Libs are going to smash him with at the election.</p>
<p>The ALP is still to come up with a viable NBN plan, so not sure why the pressure is on the libs anyway??</p>
<p>good humour this story is.</p>
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		<title>By: socrates</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/09/05/stop-hiding-your-nbn-policy-conroy-tells-turnbull/#comment-491715</link>
		<dc:creator>socrates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 03:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, just think, double the performance!

Hey, Malcolm, have we got a deal for you...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, just think, double the performance!</p>
<p>Hey, Malcolm, have we got a deal for you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: socrates</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/09/05/stop-hiding-your-nbn-policy-conroy-tells-turnbull/#comment-491713</link>
		<dc:creator>socrates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 03:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Get it technically right, guys.

Turnbull&#039;s FTTN = Fibber To The NextElection.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get it technically right, guys.</p>
<p>Turnbull&#8217;s FTTN = Fibber To The NextElection.</p>
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		<title>By: myne</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/09/05/stop-hiding-your-nbn-policy-conroy-tells-turnbull/#comment-491675</link>
		<dc:creator>myne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 22:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He can&#039;t. Because he knows that his policy is the technical equivalent of replacing two cans and string with four cans and two strings.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He can&#8217;t. Because he knows that his policy is the technical equivalent of replacing two cans and string with four cans and two strings.</p>
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		<title>By: BuildFTTP</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/09/05/stop-hiding-your-nbn-policy-conroy-tells-turnbull/#comment-491581</link>
		<dc:creator>BuildFTTP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 05:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That made me laugh. I think he&#039;s still trying to teach Hockey that his iPad doesn&#039;t use a 4G network.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That made me laugh. I think he&#8217;s still trying to teach Hockey that his iPad doesn&#8217;t use a 4G network.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Reidy</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/09/05/stop-hiding-your-nbn-policy-conroy-tells-turnbull/#comment-491568</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Reidy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 04:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[haha. Love it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha. Love it.</p>
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		<title>By: SMEMatt</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/09/05/stop-hiding-your-nbn-policy-conroy-tells-turnbull/#comment-491567</link>
		<dc:creator>SMEMatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 03:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Given the inconsistencies come from sitting LNP members I can only assume if he has a policy he is keeping it secret from everyone including his own party.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the inconsistencies come from sitting LNP members I can only assume if he has a policy he is keeping it secret from everyone including his own party.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Wyres</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/09/05/stop-hiding-your-nbn-policy-conroy-tells-turnbull/#comment-491556</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Wyres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 03:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, Fibre-to-the-NextElection!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Fibre-to-the-NextElection!</p>
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		<title>By: GongGav</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/09/05/stop-hiding-your-nbn-policy-conroy-tells-turnbull/#comment-491555</link>
		<dc:creator>GongGav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 03:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So the Liberal FttN policy now stands for Fibre to the Nerf?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the Liberal FttN policy now stands for Fibre to the Nerf?</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Reidy</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/09/05/stop-hiding-your-nbn-policy-conroy-tells-turnbull/#comment-491554</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Reidy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 03:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And while that would be partitally true, until we know how many people will actually be able to get FTTN (let alone achieve reasonable speeds on it, depending on distance and quality of copper) all we can really say is &quot;some people will get FTTN while the rest will remain on ADSL, HFC, LTE or satellite&quot;. That&#039;s no policy. Or at least it&#039;s a policy not worth mentioning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And while that would be partitally true, until we know how many people will actually be able to get FTTN (let alone achieve reasonable speeds on it, depending on distance and quality of copper) all we can really say is &#8220;some people will get FTTN while the rest will remain on ADSL, HFC, LTE or satellite&#8221;. That&#8217;s no policy. Or at least it&#8217;s a policy not worth mentioning.</p>
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