I didnt want to send an ‘I dont want this ozlog nonsense’ form email that could be at all misinterpreted to presume I didnt understand the topic and would be perfectly ok with it if better educated by further political propagandizing using such nasty words as ‘terrorist’ and ‘pedophile’

Every organisation on the plant has failed at this CIA, FBI, AFP, ASIO, every state Police Force, every government department, it is a total joke and highly misleading to give the impression that this data can be kept private.

Roxen needs some hard questioning on this policy (#Note most media are totally incapable on this subject)

How will the Government guarantee the privacy of users information?

Will the Government be auditing the Telcos to ensure the data is secure, how often after every patch / upgraded network change?

Will the Government be vetting all employees of the Telcos?

What remedies will be available to Citizens when their data has been breached?

What penalties will be enforced on those Telcos and employees who are breached ?

How do you restore the reputation of a Citizen whose data has been exposed for instance a woman who may have researched a medical condition, a mental disease?

What penalties will be enforced on those organisations who use the data to discriminate against a person think Insurance companies/ employment agencies.?

I am sure this list could grow exponentially
Then there is the vexed question of allowing spooks and other “trustworthy” government employees to add, remove and change data on a person’s computer and or device, when I first heard this I honestly put it down as some bad joke or shock jock bullshit but now I am just flabbergasted.

Needless to say it will only be the stupid and uninformed criminals and the naive innocent that this rather fascist legislation will catch, the ones with half a brain will easily circumvent this and actual use this against the innocent users making then look like the perps and as history has already shown us the rather bumbling spooks and law enforcement agencies will fall for just about every dumbass trick in the book.

I could go on all night but have work to do….

Most data retention on devices such as phones and the like is *illegal* unless there is an outstanding warrant for such information gathering (in fact any information gathered outside the scope of a warrant is thrown out). Note the important part… gathering can only be done AFTER there is a need not BEFORE! You cannot keep information unless you can show a *need* for such information to be kept (usually as apart of an investigation)

What this law is saying is that apparently it’s “Ok” to skip the process on the *need* for the information as “we won’t touch it anyway” but it’s there “if we need it” because it’s “easier”. So what this government is saying is that we are all potential criminals and we all need to be “kept tabs on” w/o the need for proof that we are a criminal or not.

It’s amazing the amount of abuse and circular logic such a system can lead to. As an overused quote of ages past from good olde Franklin – “”He who gives up liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor safety.” “

This type of legislation is being proposed throughout the free west and many non free countries already have it so you will be hard pressed to do anything useful with the VPN for long. While people blame the media companies for the push, I believe they are just a cover. The criminals behind this are the international finance community, that is why the politicians are so eager to lay down and have their heads patted. Currency in almost all the world is privately issued (not government issued), is based upon entrapping whole countries in debt, is backed by nothing but the promise that the serfs will continue to labour and commands massive transfers of wealth to its proponents. Currency and the fraud that go with it must be protected at all costs.

Pirate community mesh networks will be one of the few ways of getting around this latest wet dream by our oh so capable public sector but traffic will still be exposed at internet onboarding points – especially if these are aggregated by a single network. It will be interesting to see what technologies develop and the over the top legal responses by the grubyment based upon increasingly trivial infractions of arbitrary laws. I recall a child porn case a few years back whereby someone who was part of a TOR network was prosecuted for having a fragment of an encrypted image on their hard drives. This suggests that any solution to our useless public sector should not involve store and forward and should be distributed over many onboarding points – but even then geography would still give the game away.

Alternately, encourage all your peers to stop voting for tyrants. Forget Get-Up, we need a Sit-Down campaign.

Then there’s options like the Tor project https://www.torproject.org/index.html.en, which gives you even more anonymity.

“Although it is computationally easy for the intended recipient to generate the public and private keys, to decrypt the message using the private key, and easy for the sender to encrypt the message using the public key, it is extremely difficult (or effectively impossible) for anyone to derive the private key, based only on their knowledge of the public key. This is why, unlike symmetric key algorithms, a public key algorithm does not require a secure initial exchange of one (or more) secret keys between the sender and receiver. ”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asynchronous_encryption

“Brute force” is not always feasible, providing you have sensibly created your private key, and is not cheap.

“Ignorance is no excuse for a law” (that is *not* a misquote, re-read it)
“The path to hell is paved with good intentions”

The other point most folks are missing – this is “blank cheque” policy, fueled by superstitious fears of shadows and noises beyond the light of the camp fire (e.g. terrorists, pedophiles and organised crimes).

If our “security” organisations are so hell bent on this, then they need to realise nothing is free. In simple terms – “You want tasers? Ok, no problem, it will have to come out of your hand gun budget”. They can’t have everything, and they can’t have it for free. If it is really that important, they can pay for it, and it will mean cutting back elsewhere.

It is a testament to the shallowness of these proposals that no consideration to this is given. In effect, Roxon wants to jail the Australian population – but we will need to pay for and build the jails ourselves.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/photogallery/opinion/cartoons/david-pope-20120214-1t3j0.html

All data transferred will be recorded, including the initial passing of keys when the VPN is established, and even if there is no key transfer all the data is sitting there for it to be brute force hacked.

I hope that everyone commenting here made a submission to the enquiry… There were appallingly few submissions made (just 177) for such an important issue. Clearly most people either “don’t care” or “don’t get it”. Disappointing.