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	<title>Comments on: IPA damns &#8220;extraordinary&#8221; data retention policy</title>
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		<title>By: TechinBris</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/31/ipa-damns-extraordinary-data-retention-policy/#comment-491073</link>
		<dc:creator>TechinBris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 02:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Once again, Renai spelled it all out in a sentence of  &quot;It is usually referred to by commentators as being associated with the conservative side of politics in Australia, but also often espouses more traditional liberal ideals which neither major side of Australian politics openly supports.&quot;
Neutrally nice (someone big won&#039;t financially penalise Delimiter for it) and saying it to the point really. 
Well done Renai! Thinking cap is obviously working, even considering the &quot;Curse of the West&quot; we all have to deal with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, Renai spelled it all out in a sentence of  &#8220;It is usually referred to by commentators as being associated with the conservative side of politics in Australia, but also often espouses more traditional liberal ideals which neither major side of Australian politics openly supports.&#8221;<br />
Neutrally nice (someone big won&#8217;t financially penalise Delimiter for it) and saying it to the point really.<br />
Well done Renai! Thinking cap is obviously working, even considering the &#8220;Curse of the West&#8221; we all have to deal with.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Stuart</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/31/ipa-damns-extraordinary-data-retention-policy/#comment-491056</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 00:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, glad I was sitting down when I saw the headline.  This is the first time I&#039;ve been on the same side of an issue as the IPA.  I am not sure why they don&#039;t just pack up and move to the USA.  I am sure they would be much happier under their capitalist cronyism model.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, glad I was sitting down when I saw the headline.  This is the first time I&#8217;ve been on the same side of an issue as the IPA.  I am not sure why they don&#8217;t just pack up and move to the USA.  I am sure they would be much happier under their capitalist cronyism model.</p>
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		<title>By: Avid Gamer</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/31/ipa-damns-extraordinary-data-retention-policy/#comment-490904</link>
		<dc:creator>Avid Gamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 00:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Check out their policy wish list:

http://www.ipa.org.au/publications/2080/be-like-gough:-75-radical-ideas-to-transform-australia

WHAT A LIST!!! Just as well the vast majority of decent Australians would be greatly horrified if such a list ever became a reality. It made me sick just reading the list let alone living in such a society.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out their policy wish list:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ipa.org.au/publications/2080/be-like-gough:-75-radical-ideas-to-transform-australia" rel="nofollow">http://www.ipa.org.au/publications/2080/be-like-gough:-75-radical-ideas-to-transform-australia</a></p>
<p>WHAT A LIST!!! Just as well the vast majority of decent Australians would be greatly horrified if such a list ever became a reality. It made me sick just reading the list let alone living in such a society.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/31/ipa-damns-extraordinary-data-retention-policy/#comment-490847</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 12:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is this an IPA sponsored article?

You forgot they also want to destroy and sell the National Broadband Network, along with everything else the previous governments have put in place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this an IPA sponsored article?</p>
<p>You forgot they also want to destroy and sell the National Broadband Network, along with everything else the previous governments have put in place.</p>
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		<title>By: James Q</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/31/ipa-damns-extraordinary-data-retention-policy/#comment-490837</link>
		<dc:creator>James Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 10:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I honestly have trouble telling if the IPA is a serious organisation, or a parody of one.

Check out their policy wish list:

http://www.ipa.org.au/publications/2080/be-like-gough:-75-radical-ideas-to-transform-australia

TLDR;

http://qkme.me/3qpk7i

The only thing I can agree with is their position on the data retention policy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly have trouble telling if the IPA is a serious organisation, or a parody of one.</p>
<p>Check out their policy wish list:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ipa.org.au/publications/2080/be-like-gough:-75-radical-ideas-to-transform-australia" rel="nofollow">http://www.ipa.org.au/publications/2080/be-like-gough:-75-radical-ideas-to-transform-australia</a></p>
<p>TLDR;</p>
<p><a href="http://qkme.me/3qpk7i" rel="nofollow">http://qkme.me/3qpk7i</a></p>
<p>The only thing I can agree with is their position on the data retention policy.</p>
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		<title>By: TechinBris</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/31/ipa-damns-extraordinary-data-retention-policy/#comment-490788</link>
		<dc:creator>TechinBris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 04:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am so embarrassed! *sniff*]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so embarrassed! *sniff*</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/31/ipa-damns-extraordinary-data-retention-policy/#comment-490786</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 04:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;It is increasingly clear that the Federal Attorney-General’s Department has reached too far with this one.

You mean in one step. Look for the scaled back proposition that stops short of the full 7 year OzLog but grants the public service the authority to extend the mechanisms without further parliamentary oversight (like the legislation controlling the DNA destroying full body scanners at the intl airports)  – win:win, for both the politicians and the public service.

&gt;the IPA is especially well-read within Liberal Party circles.

So that is what their litter boxes are lined with. I had often wondered what it took to reach an NLP drone, the cries of Australians obviously doesn’t do it. Thanks for the heads up.

Have to agree with TechinBris - despite the shameful spelling mistake - the only reason the think tanks are concerned about this is that their corporate sponsors might get tangled up in it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;It is increasingly clear that the Federal Attorney-General’s Department has reached too far with this one.</p>
<p>You mean in one step. Look for the scaled back proposition that stops short of the full 7 year OzLog but grants the public service the authority to extend the mechanisms without further parliamentary oversight (like the legislation controlling the DNA destroying full body scanners at the intl airports)  – win:win, for both the politicians and the public service.</p>
<p>&gt;the IPA is especially well-read within Liberal Party circles.</p>
<p>So that is what their litter boxes are lined with. I had often wondered what it took to reach an NLP drone, the cries of Australians obviously doesn’t do it. Thanks for the heads up.</p>
<p>Have to agree with TechinBris &#8211; despite the shameful spelling mistake &#8211; the only reason the think tanks are concerned about this is that their corporate sponsors might get tangled up in it.</p>
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		<title>By: TechinBris</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/31/ipa-damns-extraordinary-data-retention-policy/#comment-490778</link>
		<dc:creator>TechinBris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 03:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OMG! I dropped a &quot;T&quot; from thought *sob* I am shamed for it. *sob*  :{)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG! I dropped a &#8220;T&#8221; from thought *sob* I am shamed for it. *sob*  :{)</p>
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		<title>By: TechinBris</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/31/ipa-damns-extraordinary-data-retention-policy/#comment-490773</link>
		<dc:creator>TechinBris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 03:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“You’ll find the IPA active in a whole range of areas.”
Definitely, but mostly extolling the virtues of the unethical exploitation of people. I have learned after reading so much of their diatribe, to always pick away the glossy veneer of the shiny black piano finish presented to the public, to experience the scratch and sniff blackness of the raw sewerage of unethical human exploitation that under lines most of their published works. Ever wondered why “Neither major side of Australian politics openly supports”, that you have written, makes it blatantly obvious as to why!

I doubt the IPA cares a twat of human compassion (if they were capable of it) about the privacy of the average Australian Joe or Sheila, but they’d be horrified at the though of the Corporate Sector’s privacy being breached by the Oz Log data being used to find if any of their supporters are guilty of unethical human exploitation for profit. EGAD!!!!

I always hope people are civil in their actions in business, plus it is a dog eat dog environment and you must win to survive. But people are people and we have to live together and survive together with finite resources on a rock orbiting a G-Class Star. We don’t have anywhere else yet. Surely we can respect each other enough to value each others privacy,  right to a reasonable and just society, without returning to Victorian and Edwardian values of unethical human exploitation, lack of civil rights and privacy invasion. Australian’s thought they’d evolved past those relics of past injustices.

Alas, it seems our Liberal and Labor Governments, plus Neo-Conservative Organizations haven’t evolved at all. Will the Australian Citizen have to drag them behind us, kicking and screaming, bloody fingernails gouging into the concrete of time, whilst they longingly look back, mesmerized, to their glorious past whilst stabbing us in the back as we attempt to take our society forward. 
Into the future together, evolving and progressing in a changing world, is something we should aspire to be as a nation. Things changed in the past for a reason. Mostly because those solutions had problems which shamed us and we found abhorrent. Solve the solutions with something new that “might” work, is surely better than something we tried and it did not. To repeat the same mistakes would be futility in the most extreme.

Just say “NO!” to devolution and unethical human exploitation. It sucks.

Good article Renai. :{D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“You’ll find the IPA active in a whole range of areas.”<br />
Definitely, but mostly extolling the virtues of the unethical exploitation of people. I have learned after reading so much of their diatribe, to always pick away the glossy veneer of the shiny black piano finish presented to the public, to experience the scratch and sniff blackness of the raw sewerage of unethical human exploitation that under lines most of their published works. Ever wondered why “Neither major side of Australian politics openly supports”, that you have written, makes it blatantly obvious as to why!</p>
<p>I doubt the IPA cares a twat of human compassion (if they were capable of it) about the privacy of the average Australian Joe or Sheila, but they’d be horrified at the though of the Corporate Sector’s privacy being breached by the Oz Log data being used to find if any of their supporters are guilty of unethical human exploitation for profit. EGAD!!!!</p>
<p>I always hope people are civil in their actions in business, plus it is a dog eat dog environment and you must win to survive. But people are people and we have to live together and survive together with finite resources on a rock orbiting a G-Class Star. We don’t have anywhere else yet. Surely we can respect each other enough to value each others privacy,  right to a reasonable and just society, without returning to Victorian and Edwardian values of unethical human exploitation, lack of civil rights and privacy invasion. Australian’s thought they’d evolved past those relics of past injustices.</p>
<p>Alas, it seems our Liberal and Labor Governments, plus Neo-Conservative Organizations haven’t evolved at all. Will the Australian Citizen have to drag them behind us, kicking and screaming, bloody fingernails gouging into the concrete of time, whilst they longingly look back, mesmerized, to their glorious past whilst stabbing us in the back as we attempt to take our society forward.<br />
Into the future together, evolving and progressing in a changing world, is something we should aspire to be as a nation. Things changed in the past for a reason. Mostly because those solutions had problems which shamed us and we found abhorrent. Solve the solutions with something new that “might” work, is surely better than something we tried and it did not. To repeat the same mistakes would be futility in the most extreme.</p>
<p>Just say “NO!” to devolution and unethical human exploitation. It sucks.</p>
<p>Good article Renai. :{D</p>
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