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	<title>Comments on: HP reveals first Win8 laptops for Australia</title>
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		<title>By: Vidar</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/31/hp-reveals-first-win8-laptops-for-australia/#comment-494031</link>
		<dc:creator>Vidar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to agree with you on your point about preferring Macbooks, Daniel996. I have been a long-time user of Windows and have gotten used to it. I&#039;ve always hated the Macs because of the complicated interface they had before, especially the absence of the right-click.

Throughout the years, the Mac OS has addressed their UI problems like the right-click and control button and worked on innovations of their own like the App Expose, Mission Control and the Gestures. Over the years, they have experimented on various improvements and removed those that posed complexity and discomfort for the users. I have to admit Apple did imitate some UI tweaks from Windows, but they covered it up with innovations themselves.

The way the Win8 OS has been following the standards set by Macbooks by implementing new features like Apps and a Launchpad-esque Start Screen is definitely an experiment to improvement, but what problem did they address in the first place? The desktop interface of Windows XP was already outstanding. I found a hard time with Windows 7 because of all the extra animations that slowed the progress of my matters and this radical shift to the Shell shows that Microsoft is trying too hard to veer away from the staple XP UI that has given Windows its identity throughout the years.

It will be great for tablets but desktops and laptops w/o touchscreens are a different story. This will cause a big blow to Win8 sales until they give users the choice to staying with the original Start button interface or shifting to the Shell Start Screen.

I can see this analogous to the Facebook Timeline implementation where we see posts on the web of people cheering for their triumph of being able to stick to the classic Facebook interface.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with you on your point about preferring Macbooks, Daniel996. I have been a long-time user of Windows and have gotten used to it. I&#8217;ve always hated the Macs because of the complicated interface they had before, especially the absence of the right-click.</p>
<p>Throughout the years, the Mac OS has addressed their UI problems like the right-click and control button and worked on innovations of their own like the App Expose, Mission Control and the Gestures. Over the years, they have experimented on various improvements and removed those that posed complexity and discomfort for the users. I have to admit Apple did imitate some UI tweaks from Windows, but they covered it up with innovations themselves.</p>
<p>The way the Win8 OS has been following the standards set by Macbooks by implementing new features like Apps and a Launchpad-esque Start Screen is definitely an experiment to improvement, but what problem did they address in the first place? The desktop interface of Windows XP was already outstanding. I found a hard time with Windows 7 because of all the extra animations that slowed the progress of my matters and this radical shift to the Shell shows that Microsoft is trying too hard to veer away from the staple XP UI that has given Windows its identity throughout the years.</p>
<p>It will be great for tablets but desktops and laptops w/o touchscreens are a different story. This will cause a big blow to Win8 sales until they give users the choice to staying with the original Start button interface or shifting to the Shell Start Screen.</p>
<p>I can see this analogous to the Facebook Timeline implementation where we see posts on the web of people cheering for their triumph of being able to stick to the classic Facebook interface.</p>
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		<title>By: Vidar</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/31/hp-reveals-first-win8-laptops-for-australia/#comment-494021</link>
		<dc:creator>Vidar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t worry, I&#039;m not trolling Master_T. The issue here is that the Spectre XT looks too much like the MBP, not that Apple products are not &quot;invented&quot;. Patenting does not disprove the similarity between the Spectre XT and the MBP since my argument is purely visual, not legal.

Please do not digress from the topic at hand. Comment only when your opinions or rebuttals have proper direction. Thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry, I&#8217;m not trolling Master_T. The issue here is that the Spectre XT looks too much like the MBP, not that Apple products are not &#8220;invented&#8221;. Patenting does not disprove the similarity between the Spectre XT and the MBP since my argument is purely visual, not legal.</p>
<p>Please do not digress from the topic at hand. Comment only when your opinions or rebuttals have proper direction. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Vidar</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/31/hp-reveals-first-win8-laptops-for-australia/#comment-494016</link>
		<dc:creator>Vidar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2012 12:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So just to clarify seven_tech, I was pointing out to the Spectre XT ultrabook, you know the silver aluminum plated one? Look familiar?

The ecological niche I was talking about was the inherent market share of Apple among the middle to upper class. Have you watched movies or series lately? Or have you watched movies or series at all? MBPs and iMacs have been widely used by executives, parents, teen-agers, and even geek and techies like in Big Bang Theory that are supposedly accustomed to the more gaming-friendly system of Windows. Macs have always been that symbol of high culture and the imitation of HP through the Spectre XT is what I see as a misguided attempt.

On a side note, why do you reply to every comment you disagree to, anyway? Don&#039;t you have anything better to do? You go about ranting about your argument without even seeing the scope of my claims as your rebuttals are clearly misinformed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So just to clarify seven_tech, I was pointing out to the Spectre XT ultrabook, you know the silver aluminum plated one? Look familiar?</p>
<p>The ecological niche I was talking about was the inherent market share of Apple among the middle to upper class. Have you watched movies or series lately? Or have you watched movies or series at all? MBPs and iMacs have been widely used by executives, parents, teen-agers, and even geek and techies like in Big Bang Theory that are supposedly accustomed to the more gaming-friendly system of Windows. Macs have always been that symbol of high culture and the imitation of HP through the Spectre XT is what I see as a misguided attempt.</p>
<p>On a side note, why do you reply to every comment you disagree to, anyway? Don&#8217;t you have anything better to do? You go about ranting about your argument without even seeing the scope of my claims as your rebuttals are clearly misinformed.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/31/hp-reveals-first-win8-laptops-for-australia/#comment-491596</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 06:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I still can&#039;t see how Windows 8 will be a train wreck given it hasn&#039;t been released yet.  Only nerds with RTM versions are complaining - not my mum or dad who finds Windows clunky and the simplicity of iOS appealing.

Furthermore, the myth that Windows 7 is perfect is in fact wrong.

Windows 7 still has issues with things like USB 3.0 mass storage compatibility that have been resolved in Windows 8.

As a Windows Phone user for the past two years, I also am used to large tiles with lots of info.  My desktop on Windows 7 is an empty void.  I only use programs.  I will give it a go, and I&#039;m sure in my first world life I&#039;ll suck it up and get used to it.

The main inconvenience I can see, having not used it, is not having taskbar multitasking in the new UI. Otherwise I say give it time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still can&#8217;t see how Windows 8 will be a train wreck given it hasn&#8217;t been released yet.  Only nerds with RTM versions are complaining &#8211; not my mum or dad who finds Windows clunky and the simplicity of iOS appealing.</p>
<p>Furthermore, the myth that Windows 7 is perfect is in fact wrong.</p>
<p>Windows 7 still has issues with things like USB 3.0 mass storage compatibility that have been resolved in Windows 8.</p>
<p>As a Windows Phone user for the past two years, I also am used to large tiles with lots of info.  My desktop on Windows 7 is an empty void.  I only use programs.  I will give it a go, and I&#8217;m sure in my first world life I&#8217;ll suck it up and get used to it.</p>
<p>The main inconvenience I can see, having not used it, is not having taskbar multitasking in the new UI. Otherwise I say give it time.</p>
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		<title>By: Annoying Old Fart</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/31/hp-reveals-first-win8-laptops-for-australia/#comment-491165</link>
		<dc:creator>Annoying Old Fart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 07:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My mistake, the consent decree has expired. It&#039;s not illegal any more to invent coercive bundling deals:
http://semiaccurate.com/2012/06/21/consent-decree-over-microsoft-goes-back-to-monopoly-forced-bundling/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mistake, the consent decree has expired. It&#8217;s not illegal any more to invent coercive bundling deals:<br />
<a href="http://semiaccurate.com/2012/06/21/consent-decree-over-microsoft-goes-back-to-monopoly-forced-bundling/" rel="nofollow">http://semiaccurate.com/2012/06/21/consent-decree-over-microsoft-goes-back-to-monopoly-forced-bundling/</a></p>
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		<title>By: seven_tech</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/31/hp-reveals-first-win8-laptops-for-australia/#comment-491157</link>
		<dc:creator>seven_tech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 06:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Illegal Annoying Old Fart??

How so?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Illegal Annoying Old Fart??</p>
<p>How so?</p>
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		<title>By: Annoying Old Fart</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/31/hp-reveals-first-win8-laptops-for-australia/#comment-491155</link>
		<dc:creator>Annoying Old Fart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 06:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HP laptops and Win8... what could possibly go wrong? 

People buying new machines from 4Q will get Win8 whether they want it or not... these illegal bundling deals are still around to irk us. I won&#039;t be buying anything without a test drive on a Linux live USB stick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HP laptops and Win8&#8230; what could possibly go wrong? </p>
<p>People buying new machines from 4Q will get Win8 whether they want it or not&#8230; these illegal bundling deals are still around to irk us. I won&#8217;t be buying anything without a test drive on a Linux live USB stick.</p>
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		<title>By: djos</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/31/hp-reveals-first-win8-laptops-for-australia/#comment-491097</link>
		<dc:creator>djos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 04:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ps, Win8&#039;s UI might even make sense with a Leap Motion input device!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps, Win8&#8242;s UI might even make sense with a Leap Motion input device!</p>
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		<title>By: djos</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/31/hp-reveals-first-win8-laptops-for-australia/#comment-491096</link>
		<dc:creator>djos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 04:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Touch is Old hat, any OEM with some vision should be bangind down Leap Motion&#039;s door to incorporate their technology into their HW!

http://leapmotion.com/

I&#039;ve personally pre-ordered mine a while back but if these where incorporated into Laptops and PC keyboards they would be imo revolutionary!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Touch is Old hat, any OEM with some vision should be bangind down Leap Motion&#8217;s door to incorporate their technology into their HW!</p>
<p><a href="http://leapmotion.com/" rel="nofollow">http://leapmotion.com/</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve personally pre-ordered mine a while back but if these where incorporated into Laptops and PC keyboards they would be imo revolutionary!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/31/hp-reveals-first-win8-laptops-for-australia/#comment-491064</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 01:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I gotta disagree Renai. Sure for strict desktop requirements, it’s a bit of a pain. But it’s far from a “train-wreck”.&lt;/i&gt;

I was enjoying this article until I came to that bit of journalistic hyperbole.  This is not the sort of thing I&#039;ve come to expect from Delimiter.  Come on Renai, I get that you don&#039;t personally like it, but a trainwreck, really?

I&#039;ve been using Windows 8 for a few weeks on a touch device (Samsung series 7 slate PC) and a non-touch desktop.  I&#039;m really enjoying it on the former, and after a period of adjustment on the latter I&#039;m finding it works well enough.  Yes it&#039;s a pain at first but so was Windows 95 when it came out, and I remember how much everyone bitched and moaned about it back then.  People don&#039;t like different, even if it is a genuine leap forward.

I&#039;m putting it out there: in another year you will look back on these comments and be embarrassed you wrote them.  Ditto for almost all of the Windows 8 haters.  I&#039;m putting a reminder in my calendar as we speak.  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I gotta disagree Renai. Sure for strict desktop requirements, it’s a bit of a pain. But it’s far from a “train-wreck”.</i></p>
<p>I was enjoying this article until I came to that bit of journalistic hyperbole.  This is not the sort of thing I&#8217;ve come to expect from Delimiter.  Come on Renai, I get that you don&#8217;t personally like it, but a trainwreck, really?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been using Windows 8 for a few weeks on a touch device (Samsung series 7 slate PC) and a non-touch desktop.  I&#8217;m really enjoying it on the former, and after a period of adjustment on the latter I&#8217;m finding it works well enough.  Yes it&#8217;s a pain at first but so was Windows 95 when it came out, and I remember how much everyone bitched and moaned about it back then.  People don&#8217;t like different, even if it is a genuine leap forward.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m putting it out there: in another year you will look back on these comments and be embarrassed you wrote them.  Ditto for almost all of the Windows 8 haters.  I&#8217;m putting a reminder in my calendar as we speak.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel996</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/31/hp-reveals-first-win8-laptops-for-australia/#comment-490902</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel996</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 00:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that there has to be at some point a step forward in the user interface for Windows, but it should be a) intuitive and b) gradually introduced over a couple of versions so people can get used to it.

Windows 8 has done neither - they&#039;ve ripped out the old way people have been doing things since Win95, enforced a new touch/hot spot regime and expect their users to deal with it.  All it&#039;s going to do is alienate a bunch of users who will more than likely give a Mac a lot more consideration than they every would have done in the past.

I&#039;m not sure I&#039;m going to be able to convince my elderly parents that Win8 with all its gestures and hidden hot spots is a step forward - so for me and plenty of other people solutions like Classic Shell will become a standard addition for all Win8 installs, along with the usual Java, Adobe Reader, FireFox/Chrome etc etc.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/23/classic_shell_gives_windows_8_a_start_button/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that there has to be at some point a step forward in the user interface for Windows, but it should be a) intuitive and b) gradually introduced over a couple of versions so people can get used to it.</p>
<p>Windows 8 has done neither &#8211; they&#8217;ve ripped out the old way people have been doing things since Win95, enforced a new touch/hot spot regime and expect their users to deal with it.  All it&#8217;s going to do is alienate a bunch of users who will more than likely give a Mac a lot more consideration than they every would have done in the past.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;m going to be able to convince my elderly parents that Win8 with all its gestures and hidden hot spots is a step forward &#8211; so for me and plenty of other people solutions like Classic Shell will become a standard addition for all Win8 installs, along with the usual Java, Adobe Reader, FireFox/Chrome etc etc.<br />
<a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/23/classic_shell_gives_windows_8_a_start_button/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/23/classic_shell_gives_windows_8_a_start_button/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Master_T</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/31/hp-reveals-first-win8-laptops-for-australia/#comment-490901</link>
		<dc:creator>Master_T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 00:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thats my point that I made. If you had a touchscreen monitor, you wouldnt be concerned with getting rid of the mosaic interface at all. You&#039;d be able to use it as intended. Because its now forced OEM and Monitor manufacturers to change their tune, w8&#039;s dominant interface becomes a null issue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats my point that I made. If you had a touchscreen monitor, you wouldnt be concerned with getting rid of the mosaic interface at all. You&#8217;d be able to use it as intended. Because its now forced OEM and Monitor manufacturers to change their tune, w8&#8242;s dominant interface becomes a null issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Master_T</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/31/hp-reveals-first-win8-laptops-for-australia/#comment-490900</link>
		<dc:creator>Master_T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 00:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I dont mean to offend but...

Is that actually your opinion? Im not sure if you&#039;re trolling or what.

I definitely dont agree with your opinion that they all look like Apple products, given Apple&#039;s &#039;invented&#039; almost nothing. Their products are using ingredients of other products to make a better experiece and newer product. The Ultrabook is a patented design by Intel, before the MBA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont mean to offend but&#8230;</p>
<p>Is that actually your opinion? Im not sure if you&#8217;re trolling or what.</p>
<p>I definitely dont agree with your opinion that they all look like Apple products, given Apple&#8217;s &#8216;invented&#8217; almost nothing. Their products are using ingredients of other products to make a better experiece and newer product. The Ultrabook is a patented design by Intel, before the MBA.</p>
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		<title>By: SMEMatt</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/31/hp-reveals-first-win8-laptops-for-australia/#comment-490899</link>
		<dc:creator>SMEMatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 00:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But it has rounded corners clearly ripping off apples design innovation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But it has rounded corners clearly ripping off apples design innovation.</p>
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		<title>By: ferretzor</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/31/hp-reveals-first-win8-laptops-for-australia/#comment-490896</link>
		<dc:creator>ferretzor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 23:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have only used 8 on a desktop (and then its only the &quot;release candidate&quot; you could download). If you could just wipe the &quot;zomg squares&quot; bit away completely, it wouldn&#039;t be so bad. Feels kinda responsive UI wise, seems fairly robust. But yeah... 

Don&#039;t like the &quot;mouse to side of screen, then to the other side, then to the other side again&quot; stuff they have done. Its as thought they have invested heavily in some RSI treatment, then designed the UI to inflict as much mouse hand pain as possible. Am sure its ok on a touch screen, widescreen desktop.. not so much.

The less said about their &quot;apps&quot; the better too, at least for a desktop. Just so awful as to be beyond belief.

Maybe they should have followed the KDE line and had a checkbox for &quot;I want the tablet / netbook UI&quot;, and keep the entire windows 7 / xp / whatever type desktop for everyone else?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have only used 8 on a desktop (and then its only the &#8220;release candidate&#8221; you could download). If you could just wipe the &#8220;zomg squares&#8221; bit away completely, it wouldn&#8217;t be so bad. Feels kinda responsive UI wise, seems fairly robust. But yeah&#8230; </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t like the &#8220;mouse to side of screen, then to the other side, then to the other side again&#8221; stuff they have done. Its as thought they have invested heavily in some RSI treatment, then designed the UI to inflict as much mouse hand pain as possible. Am sure its ok on a touch screen, widescreen desktop.. not so much.</p>
<p>The less said about their &#8220;apps&#8221; the better too, at least for a desktop. Just so awful as to be beyond belief.</p>
<p>Maybe they should have followed the KDE line and had a checkbox for &#8220;I want the tablet / netbook UI&#8221;, and keep the entire windows 7 / xp / whatever type desktop for everyone else?</p>
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		<title>By: seven_tech</title>
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		<dc:creator>seven_tech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry Vidar but I couldn&#039;t disagree more. The only thing that is similar between this and the MacBook is its thinness. Apart from that, is is a different colour, has different lines, different touchpad design and a completely different shaped chassis. Oh and a touchscreen....

I hate to say this, but I&#039;d you believe &#039;all these products&#039; just look like MacBooks....I think you might have an issue with Apple love. I&#039;ve not seen many Ultrabooks that look like MacBooks and those that do I find boring. Because the MacBook IS boring its design hasn&#039;t changed in 5 years....

The innovation in the marketplace is strong. Apple have had a static share of the PC market of LESS than 15% for years. They are not a huge threat to any of the larger market share competitors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry Vidar but I couldn&#8217;t disagree more. The only thing that is similar between this and the MacBook is its thinness. Apart from that, is is a different colour, has different lines, different touchpad design and a completely different shaped chassis. Oh and a touchscreen&#8230;.</p>
<p>I hate to say this, but I&#8217;d you believe &#8216;all these products&#8217; just look like MacBooks&#8230;.I think you might have an issue with Apple love. I&#8217;ve not seen many Ultrabooks that look like MacBooks and those that do I find boring. Because the MacBook IS boring its design hasn&#8217;t changed in 5 years&#8230;.</p>
<p>The innovation in the marketplace is strong. Apple have had a static share of the PC market of LESS than 15% for years. They are not a huge threat to any of the larger market share competitors.</p>
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		<title>By: Vidar</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/31/hp-reveals-first-win8-laptops-for-australia/#comment-490839</link>
		<dc:creator>Vidar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 11:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This looks too much like the MacBook Pro. What is up with companies ripping off Apple products? HP should hope they do not sell good or they will face the same lawsuits Samsung is facing and paying today.
On a personal note, I&#039;m starting to get disappointed with the Apple competition today. Instead of promoting innovation and originality, they begin to design their products more and more like Apple products, themselves. I know Windows PCs or laptops would never be able to take over the niche Apple has occupied for years already, but this is just sad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks too much like the MacBook Pro. What is up with companies ripping off Apple products? HP should hope they do not sell good or they will face the same lawsuits Samsung is facing and paying today.<br />
On a personal note, I&#8217;m starting to get disappointed with the Apple competition today. Instead of promoting innovation and originality, they begin to design their products more and more like Apple products, themselves. I know Windows PCs or laptops would never be able to take over the niche Apple has occupied for years already, but this is just sad.</p>
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		<title>By: seven_tech</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/31/hp-reveals-first-win8-laptops-for-australia/#comment-490821</link>
		<dc:creator>seven_tech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 08:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Karl

Well, we&#039;ll have to agree to disagree. Cause I find myself constantly reaching out on the laptops I use. Particularly after using my phone or tablet....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Karl</p>
<p>Well, we&#8217;ll have to agree to disagree. Cause I find myself constantly reaching out on the laptops I use. Particularly after using my phone or tablet&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/31/hp-reveals-first-win8-laptops-for-australia/#comment-490820</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 08:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not about how good they are, it&#039;s about how you use them. Hands in front of the screen = not useful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not about how good they are, it&#8217;s about how you use them. Hands in front of the screen = not useful.</p>
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		<title>By: Stove</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/08/31/hp-reveals-first-win8-laptops-for-australia/#comment-490819</link>
		<dc:creator>Stove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 07:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Server space. I can&#039;t wait to roll out some new touch-interface DL380s, it&#039;ll make scripting a much more immersive experience!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Server space. I can&#8217;t wait to roll out some new touch-interface DL380s, it&#8217;ll make scripting a much more immersive experience!</p>
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