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	<title>Comments on: US slams Australia&#8217;s on-shore cloud fixation</title>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/04/13/us-slams-australias-on-shore-cloud-fixation/#comment-394635</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As an American, I can only say, &quot;RUN YOU FOOLS!!!&quot;. It is too late for us, but you can still save yourselves. Do not let the US government get a single tentacle into any of your orifices or you too will be infected by this monster - it needs to be burned with fire.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an American, I can only say, &#8220;RUN YOU FOOLS!!!&#8221;. It is too late for us, but you can still save yourselves. Do not let the US government get a single tentacle into any of your orifices or you too will be infected by this monster &#8211; it needs to be burned with fire.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/04/13/us-slams-australias-on-shore-cloud-fixation/#comment-394115</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 01:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; US cloud computing companies such as Salesforce.com, Rackspace, Amazon and Google have committed very little infrastructure to the Australian market, and analysis after analysis has warned of the data security dangers of storing sensitive data in jurisdictions covered by US legislation, which can, at times, allow the US Government unprecedented access to private data.&quot;

This is because cloud computing requires fast, cheap broadband which Australia presently lacks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; US cloud computing companies such as Salesforce.com, Rackspace, Amazon and Google have committed very little infrastructure to the Australian market, and analysis after analysis has warned of the data security dangers of storing sensitive data in jurisdictions covered by US legislation, which can, at times, allow the US Government unprecedented access to private data.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is because cloud computing requires fast, cheap broadband which Australia presently lacks.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/04/13/us-slams-australias-on-shore-cloud-fixation/#comment-390435</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 12:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a professional web developer from the United States, and still living there, I have to say that the country has gone insane in several ways, and if I have a choice, I no longer host data on domains under US control or with US companies.  I&#039;m even troubled when overseas companies open US offices, thus bringing some of their operations (all of them?) under US control (I&#039;m looking at you gandi.net).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a professional web developer from the United States, and still living there, I have to say that the country has gone insane in several ways, and if I have a choice, I no longer host data on domains under US control or with US companies.  I&#8217;m even troubled when overseas companies open US offices, thus bringing some of their operations (all of them?) under US control (I&#8217;m looking at you gandi.net).</p>
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		<title>By: SMEMatt</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/04/13/us-slams-australias-on-shore-cloud-fixation/#comment-382371</link>
		<dc:creator>SMEMatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 04:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As some people have mentioned iCloud does present an issue.
I may need to read the DSD restriction on iOS 5 to see what they found.

Apple site of what backed up.

&quot;What is backed up

You get unlimited free storage for:

    Purchased music, TV shows, apps, and books *


You get 5GB of free iCloud storage for:

    Photos and videos in the Camera Roll
    Device settings (for example: Phone Favorites, Wallpaper, and Mail, Contacts, Calendar accounts)
    App data
    Home screen and app organization
    Messages (iMessage, SMS, and MMS)
    Ringtones&quot;

Don&#039;t know if they include actually email content but it does seem to include mail contacts which may contain information covered under the privacy act. Not to mention SMS MMS and photos taken with the phone.
Data for LoB applications that is cached on the phone?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As some people have mentioned iCloud does present an issue.<br />
I may need to read the DSD restriction on iOS 5 to see what they found.</p>
<p>Apple site of what backed up.</p>
<p>&#8220;What is backed up</p>
<p>You get unlimited free storage for:</p>
<p>    Purchased music, TV shows, apps, and books *</p>
<p>You get 5GB of free iCloud storage for:</p>
<p>    Photos and videos in the Camera Roll<br />
    Device settings (for example: Phone Favorites, Wallpaper, and Mail, Contacts, Calendar accounts)<br />
    App data<br />
    Home screen and app organization<br />
    Messages (iMessage, SMS, and MMS)<br />
    Ringtones&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know if they include actually email content but it does seem to include mail contacts which may contain information covered under the privacy act. Not to mention SMS MMS and photos taken with the phone.<br />
Data for LoB applications that is cached on the phone?</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Shaw</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/04/13/us-slams-australias-on-shore-cloud-fixation/#comment-381411</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 08:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmm, yes I really want to host my data as far away from my place of business as I can.  Latency is good.

FFS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, yes I really want to host my data as far away from my place of business as I can.  Latency is good.</p>
<p>FFS.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/04/13/us-slams-australias-on-shore-cloud-fixation/#comment-381065</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 04:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course the US government don&#039;t seize your money. That&#039;s what Paypal, Mastercard and Visa are for. And in the case currently before NZ courts, Universal. Or in the case of Airbus, Boeing. Then again, there&#039;s ICE for your TLDs. And Border &amp; Customs for all the data you take in and out of the country.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course the US government don&#8217;t seize your money. That&#8217;s what Paypal, Mastercard and Visa are for. And in the case currently before NZ courts, Universal. Or in the case of Airbus, Boeing. Then again, there&#8217;s ICE for your TLDs. And Border &amp; Customs for all the data you take in and out of the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Renai LeMay</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/04/13/us-slams-australias-on-shore-cloud-fixation/#comment-381041</link>
		<dc:creator>Renai LeMay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 03:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frankly, I personally would prefer it if no government or private sector organisation had any access to any information about me unless it was information that I chose. Access to bank details in particular has the potential to map out a complete picture of your life.

For example, say I met a confidential source for coffee at a certain cafe and paid for it with my credit card. Say that source worked upstairs from said cafe, and was giving me information about secret government programs. If law enforcement wanted to make a case against me, they could use that information to establish a case for searching that source&#039;s files.

You may laugh, but I&#039;ve seen plenty of similar things happen to other journalists in the past. The less people who have access to your supposedly private information, the better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, I personally would prefer it if no government or private sector organisation had any access to any information about me unless it was information that I chose. Access to bank details in particular has the potential to map out a complete picture of your life.</p>
<p>For example, say I met a confidential source for coffee at a certain cafe and paid for it with my credit card. Say that source worked upstairs from said cafe, and was giving me information about secret government programs. If law enforcement wanted to make a case against me, they could use that information to establish a case for searching that source&#8217;s files.</p>
<p>You may laugh, but I&#8217;ve seen plenty of similar things happen to other journalists in the past. The less people who have access to your supposedly private information, the better.</p>
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		<title>By: jdub</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/04/13/us-slams-australias-on-shore-cloud-fixation/#comment-381031</link>
		<dc:creator>jdub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 03:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So you&#039;re fear is that the US government, under the guise of the patriot act, will access your banking information and steal your money?  Really?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you&#8217;re fear is that the US government, under the guise of the patriot act, will access your banking information and steal your money?  Really?</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/04/13/us-slams-australias-on-shore-cloud-fixation/#comment-381025</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 03:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oi, JDUB.....

How about you give me all the money in your wallet? I promise i wont spend it, i will only hold onto it. Being that i said that i am not going to use the money, you shouldn&#039;t have a problem with it right?

Use that same same, and swap the words &#039;money in your wallet&#039; with &#039;data on your sever&#039;.
Still think the same way?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oi, JDUB&#8230;..</p>
<p>How about you give me all the money in your wallet? I promise i wont spend it, i will only hold onto it. Being that i said that i am not going to use the money, you shouldn&#8217;t have a problem with it right?</p>
<p>Use that same same, and swap the words &#8216;money in your wallet&#8217; with &#8216;data on your sever&#8217;.<br />
Still think the same way?</p>
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		<title>By: jdub</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/04/13/us-slams-australias-on-shore-cloud-fixation/#comment-380961</link>
		<dc:creator>jdub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 02:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I care about thieves getting my bank details but the government?  Again- so what?  What are they going to do?  I don&#039;t get the fear.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I care about thieves getting my bank details but the government?  Again- so what?  What are they going to do?  I don&#8217;t get the fear.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/04/13/us-slams-australias-on-shore-cloud-fixation/#comment-380945</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 01:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about hosted email, sharepoint?  WRT govt data, your health records, tax returns, banking details?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about hosted email, sharepoint?  WRT govt data, your health records, tax returns, banking details?</p>
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		<title>By: jdub</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/04/13/us-slams-australias-on-shore-cloud-fixation/#comment-380895</link>
		<dc:creator>jdub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 01:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t this all kind of a moot issue?  Who cares if your list of sales clients and the notes from your sales calls is stored in an area that is in jurisdiction that could allow the US government to check into it to look for terrorist activities.  I&#039;m not logging super sensitive data about anyone into salesforce.com so who cares?  They&#039;re probably not ever going to look but even if they did - so what?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this all kind of a moot issue?  Who cares if your list of sales clients and the notes from your sales calls is stored in an area that is in jurisdiction that could allow the US government to check into it to look for terrorist activities.  I&#8217;m not logging super sensitive data about anyone into salesforce.com so who cares?  They&#8217;re probably not ever going to look but even if they did &#8211; so what?</p>
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		<title>By: Nostromo</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/04/13/us-slams-australias-on-shore-cloud-fixation/#comment-380741</link>
		<dc:creator>Nostromo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2012 23:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most of our clients are Aus gov/educational. The solution is very simple yanks: if we buy hosted space in the nebulous &#039;cloud&#039; that is the US of A, then change your laws to make this space sovereign. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of our clients are Aus gov/educational. The solution is very simple yanks: if we buy hosted space in the nebulous &#8216;cloud&#8217; that is the US of A, then change your laws to make this space sovereign. </p>
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		<title>By: robocop</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/04/13/us-slams-australias-on-shore-cloud-fixation/#comment-380545</link>
		<dc:creator>robocop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2012 15:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jutin yes you are correct
if it is in the usa it then falls into us law
regardless of data private or public
this is why most australian will not use any us cloud servers
you same a movie and they scan for it it gets deleted and you get a very nasty email 
they can scan all emails and data under some sections of their securiuty act
so this little black duck will just store all my stuff on external hard drives at home safer than a cloud
and easier to retrive no log jam in the network!
i personly think cloud services will be dead in about 12-18 months as people wont take advntage of them to teh fullest especialy if your on a low internet plan!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jutin yes you are correct<br />
if it is in the usa it then falls into us law<br />
regardless of data private or public<br />
this is why most australian will not use any us cloud servers<br />
you same a movie and they scan for it it gets deleted and you get a very nasty email<br />
they can scan all emails and data under some sections of their securiuty act<br />
so this little black duck will just store all my stuff on external hard drives at home safer than a cloud<br />
and easier to retrive no log jam in the network!<br />
i personly think cloud services will be dead in about 12-18 months as people wont take advntage of them to teh fullest especialy if your on a low internet plan!</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/04/13/us-slams-australias-on-shore-cloud-fixation/#comment-379915</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2012 00:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s so much better being onshore sometimes due to things such as speed and latency (especially latency...not that it&#039;s too too important in cloud services it&#039;d still make it noticeably quicker...)

That&#039;s the way I think of it. I don&#039;t care if my data is in the USA as I don&#039;t do anything suspicious or illegal nor would any cloud storage service be my only backup EVER.

I mean have a look at how much of your personal data is offshore, or able to be accessed offshore, you call telstra and who is on the other end identifying you? do you have GMAIL, where does google have data centers again (I think google has servers here too but your data is DEFIANTLY in the USA). 

You see we are just so screwed in this day and age so all we got to bank on is that there are too many of us using cloud services for any close monitoring to go on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s so much better being onshore sometimes due to things such as speed and latency (especially latency&#8230;not that it&#8217;s too too important in cloud services it&#8217;d still make it noticeably quicker&#8230;)</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the way I think of it. I don&#8217;t care if my data is in the USA as I don&#8217;t do anything suspicious or illegal nor would any cloud storage service be my only backup EVER.</p>
<p>I mean have a look at how much of your personal data is offshore, or able to be accessed offshore, you call telstra and who is on the other end identifying you? do you have GMAIL, where does google have data centers again (I think google has servers here too but your data is DEFIANTLY in the USA). </p>
<p>You see we are just so screwed in this day and age so all we got to bank on is that there are too many of us using cloud services for any close monitoring to go on.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/04/13/us-slams-australias-on-shore-cloud-fixation/#comment-379761</link>
		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 16:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[US citizen and resident here, and while I love the US (the country), our government seems to be smoking more and more crack every day. This is beyond ridiculous for a variety of reasons already noted. I maintain my own &quot;cloud&quot; for security/privacy reasons, and would hope Australians and their government would give these protestations the dismissal that they deserve.

Maybe one day our government will realize how much money they are losing, for themselves and US companies, with their actions. Because that&#039;s about the only way things will change (SOPA-style uprisings notwithstanding, though those are rare and the nefarious perpetrators of that monstrosity are already trying different plans of attack).

As for &quot;dick laws&quot;, yes, many of ours unfortunately are. Companies can be even sued in the US by other countries&#039; government-funded research organizations over invalid patents -- re: CSIRO &amp; WiFi (sorry, couldn&#039;t resist :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>US citizen and resident here, and while I love the US (the country), our government seems to be smoking more and more crack every day. This is beyond ridiculous for a variety of reasons already noted. I maintain my own &#8220;cloud&#8221; for security/privacy reasons, and would hope Australians and their government would give these protestations the dismissal that they deserve.</p>
<p>Maybe one day our government will realize how much money they are losing, for themselves and US companies, with their actions. Because that&#8217;s about the only way things will change (SOPA-style uprisings notwithstanding, though those are rare and the nefarious perpetrators of that monstrosity are already trying different plans of attack).</p>
<p>As for &#8220;dick laws&#8221;, yes, many of ours unfortunately are. Companies can be even sued in the US by other countries&#8217; government-funded research organizations over invalid patents &#8212; re: CSIRO &amp; WiFi (sorry, couldn&#8217;t resist :)</p>
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		<title>By: Georg</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/04/13/us-slams-australias-on-shore-cloud-fixation/#comment-379631</link>
		<dc:creator>Georg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 12:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a German, and I&#039;m trying to use mostly european services too. Why shall I host my files in the US. It&#039;s silly enough that they did a biometric eye-scan for my new pass only for sending it to the U.S (it&#039;s a new GERMAN pass btw, Germany is not saving this data!), so why should I sending my personal data to this hypophobic country. Maybe I&#039;ll write a presentation about some Mountains in the Iraq as a school work someday, and two years later they&#039;ll take me to prison if I want to visit NYC. Nah, if I have the choice between a fast &amp; shiny Dropbox in the US and a terrible slow australian or german/european Dropbox, I&#039;ll ever take the second one!

It&#039;s great that this kind of thinking is so popular in Australia that the USA is crying about it. :-D In Germany is US = cool, (okay, actually it&#039;s more Apple = cool, but iCloud means storing your personal data in the US in the end).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a German, and I&#8217;m trying to use mostly european services too. Why shall I host my files in the US. It&#8217;s silly enough that they did a biometric eye-scan for my new pass only for sending it to the U.S (it&#8217;s a new GERMAN pass btw, Germany is not saving this data!), so why should I sending my personal data to this hypophobic country. Maybe I&#8217;ll write a presentation about some Mountains in the Iraq as a school work someday, and two years later they&#8217;ll take me to prison if I want to visit NYC. Nah, if I have the choice between a fast &amp; shiny Dropbox in the US and a terrible slow australian or german/european Dropbox, I&#8217;ll ever take the second one!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s great that this kind of thinking is so popular in Australia that the USA is crying about it. :-D In Germany is US = cool, (okay, actually it&#8217;s more Apple = cool, but iCloud means storing your personal data in the US in the end).</p>
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		<title>By: Knighthawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knighthawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 11:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As an American I totally agree with Australia, the US government created this problem and now they have the gall to complain about it and insist you comply?  Total SNAFU and the height of hypocrisy. Please don&#039;t bow to the pressure, in fact as the author states it&#039;s Australia (and others) that should be the ones complaining and pressuring the US.  Personally I look to store my own data outside the US, which given the reach of the US isn&#039;t even much of a protection.

BTW there are some providers here in the us that do push back and just don&#039;t bend over to every requests of the government, however be warned they are very few and far between. However once there are &quot;badges at the door&quot;, 99.99% will comply.  

Let me echo another sentiment expressed by some comments from Americans in this thread - I&#039;m 37 spent my whole life here, it&#039;s no longer the same country I grew up in as a kid, and many of us can see a return to those days is highly unlikely no matter what action we take as citizens, the rubicon has been crossed. After 235 their isn&#039;t anything seriously wrong with the firmware but the OS is in serious need of a reboot, .

@TenTen - Here&#039;s a tip when it comes to the titles of most legislative works since the 90&#039;s in the US, whatever the title of the bill is, the content contained in it does the opposite or produces the opposite effect what the title would have a layman imagine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an American I totally agree with Australia, the US government created this problem and now they have the gall to complain about it and insist you comply?  Total SNAFU and the height of hypocrisy. Please don&#8217;t bow to the pressure, in fact as the author states it&#8217;s Australia (and others) that should be the ones complaining and pressuring the US.  Personally I look to store my own data outside the US, which given the reach of the US isn&#8217;t even much of a protection.</p>
<p>BTW there are some providers here in the us that do push back and just don&#8217;t bend over to every requests of the government, however be warned they are very few and far between. However once there are &#8220;badges at the door&#8221;, 99.99% will comply.  </p>
<p>Let me echo another sentiment expressed by some comments from Americans in this thread &#8211; I&#8217;m 37 spent my whole life here, it&#8217;s no longer the same country I grew up in as a kid, and many of us can see a return to those days is highly unlikely no matter what action we take as citizens, the rubicon has been crossed. After 235 their isn&#8217;t anything seriously wrong with the firmware but the OS is in serious need of a reboot, .</p>
<p>@TenTen &#8211; Here&#8217;s a tip when it comes to the titles of most legislative works since the 90&#8242;s in the US, whatever the title of the bill is, the content contained in it does the opposite or produces the opposite effect what the title would have a layman imagine.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/04/13/us-slams-australias-on-shore-cloud-fixation/#comment-379555</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 10:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They are slamming us for wanting to keep our dollars onshore? How repulsive. Also, the fact is, there are security issues involved in transfering data over long distances, period. There are security issues in relying on a foreign entity with foreign laws to keep your data safe, period. And to top it off, why would *I* as an australian, WANT to drastically increase my latancy in accessing my data if it could be avoided?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are slamming us for wanting to keep our dollars onshore? How repulsive. Also, the fact is, there are security issues involved in transfering data over long distances, period. There are security issues in relying on a foreign entity with foreign laws to keep your data safe, period. And to top it off, why would *I* as an australian, WANT to drastically increase my latancy in accessing my data if it could be avoided?</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2012/04/13/us-slams-australias-on-shore-cloud-fixation/#comment-379545</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 10:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just the fact that they acknowledge that the US government can ask for your data is enough for me. I wouldn&#039;t even care if they were 100% faithful  to their word no matter what, the fact that it can be asked for, and knowing the US they will be loose reasons, is plenty enough to keep my business out of the US cloud sector.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just the fact that they acknowledge that the US government can ask for your data is enough for me. I wouldn&#8217;t even care if they were 100% faithful  to their word no matter what, the fact that it can be asked for, and knowing the US they will be loose reasons, is plenty enough to keep my business out of the US cloud sector.</p>
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