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	<title>Comments on: Blatant hypocrisy: Victoria demands NBN &#8220;fair share&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Hubert Cumberdale</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2011/10/20/blatant-hypocrisy-victoria-demands-nbn-fair-share/#comment-179885</link>
		<dc:creator>Hubert Cumberdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 00:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hush child. Adults are discussing the merits of a FTTH network currently under construction in Australia.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hush child. Adults are discussing the merits of a FTTH network currently under construction in Australia.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Harding</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2011/10/20/blatant-hypocrisy-victoria-demands-nbn-fair-share/#comment-179835</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Harding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 23:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are you saying you think Turnbull &lt;i&gt;doesn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; want to stop the NBN rollout? That you think Turnbull is acting directly against the orders of Abbott when he told Turnbull to &quot;demolish&quot; the NBN?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you saying you think Turnbull <i>doesn&#8217;t</i> want to stop the NBN rollout? That you think Turnbull is acting directly against the orders of Abbott when he told Turnbull to &#8220;demolish&#8221; the NBN?</p>
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		<title>By: alain</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2011/10/20/blatant-hypocrisy-victoria-demands-nbn-fair-share/#comment-179805</link>
		<dc:creator>alain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 23:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@HC

Oh I see, you are a &#039;mind reader&#039;, you can actually tell us what Turnbull thinks, he doesn&#039;t actually have to say anything anymore, we just ask you.

Amazing.)

You should audition.

http://www.abc.net.au/iview/#/series/3327591

:)



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@HC</p>
<p>Oh I see, you are a &#8216;mind reader&#8217;, you can actually tell us what Turnbull thinks, he doesn&#8217;t actually have to say anything anymore, we just ask you.</p>
<p>Amazing.)</p>
<p>You should audition.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/iview/#/series/3327591" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.net.au/iview/#/series/3327591</a></p>
<p>:)</p>
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		<title>By: Hubert Cumberdale</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2011/10/20/blatant-hypocrisy-victoria-demands-nbn-fair-share/#comment-179755</link>
		<dc:creator>Hubert Cumberdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 09:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt; you said Turnbull said it&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Nope. I never said Turnbull said it. Please try to read and comprehend things correctly. I said Turnbull thinks it should be &quot;demolished&quot;. Note the quotation marks. They mean something. Everything he has said in the past points to that without him explicitly saying it. Thing is he has had to flip-flop on the issue due to the great progress NBNco have been making... Now you know why they are regarded as hypocrites. Glad we got that sorted…

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt; So what you said was totally incorrect (again).&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Nope. You just failed to understand the comment correctly. Thanks for stopping  by.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i> you said Turnbull said it</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Nope. I never said Turnbull said it. Please try to read and comprehend things correctly. I said Turnbull thinks it should be &#8220;demolished&#8221;. Note the quotation marks. They mean something. Everything he has said in the past points to that without him explicitly saying it. Thing is he has had to flip-flop on the issue due to the great progress NBNco have been making&#8230; Now you know why they are regarded as hypocrites. Glad we got that sorted…</p>
<blockquote><p><i> So what you said was totally incorrect (again).</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Nope. You just failed to understand the comment correctly. Thanks for stopping  by.</p>
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		<title>By: alain</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2011/10/20/blatant-hypocrisy-victoria-demands-nbn-fair-share/#comment-179745</link>
		<dc:creator>alain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 08:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@HC

&quot;Mr Rabbitt told him to &quot;demolish&quot; the NBN... he&#039;s not doing a very good job of it though, maybe he hates Mr Rabbitt???&quot;

Oh the good old HC soft shoe shuffle, but that&#039;s not what you said, you said Turnbull said it, he didn&#039;t, in fact when Gillard came out and said that&#039;s what the Coalition would do if they got into power Turnbull reiterated the point and said they would not demolish any NBN already built.

So what you said was totally incorrect (again).

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@HC</p>
<p>&#8220;Mr Rabbitt told him to &#8220;demolish&#8221; the NBN&#8230; he&#8217;s not doing a very good job of it though, maybe he hates Mr Rabbitt???&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh the good old HC soft shoe shuffle, but that&#8217;s not what you said, you said Turnbull said it, he didn&#8217;t, in fact when Gillard came out and said that&#8217;s what the Coalition would do if they got into power Turnbull reiterated the point and said they would not demolish any NBN already built.</p>
<p>So what you said was totally incorrect (again).</p>
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		<title>By: Hubert Cumberdale</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2011/10/20/blatant-hypocrisy-victoria-demands-nbn-fair-share/#comment-179735</link>
		<dc:creator>Hubert Cumberdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 07:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Why do you care, blah blah blah more piffle piffle waffle&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;That&#039;s right I don’t care, however we are trying to determine coalition policy on the NBN here, since we cant I can assume they are hypocrites until they clarify their position.


&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Where did Turnbull ever say he would demolish the NBN&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Mr Rabbitt told him to &quot;demolish&quot; the NBN... he&#039;s not doing a very good job of it though, maybe he hates Mr Rabbitt???

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;No quite the opposite in fact.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Sorry but the evidence speaks for itself. The Liberal party are hypocrites, if you can’t even recognise this it makes you an even bigger hypocrite.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;I will let you get on with your picture pasting&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Great. You are finally going to cease your incessant childish whining. 

http://i.imgur.com/sDJ89.jpg]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>Why do you care, blah blah blah more piffle piffle waffle</i></p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s right I don’t care, however we are trying to determine coalition policy on the NBN here, since we cant I can assume they are hypocrites until they clarify their position.</p>
<blockquote><p><i>Where did Turnbull ever say he would demolish the NBN</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Mr Rabbitt told him to &#8220;demolish&#8221; the NBN&#8230; he&#8217;s not doing a very good job of it though, maybe he hates Mr Rabbitt???</p>
<blockquote><p><i>No quite the opposite in fact.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Sorry but the evidence speaks for itself. The Liberal party are hypocrites, if you can’t even recognise this it makes you an even bigger hypocrite.</p>
<blockquote><p><i>I will let you get on with your picture pasting</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Great. You are finally going to cease your incessant childish whining. </p>
<p><a href="http://i.imgur.com/sDJ89.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/sDJ89.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dean Harding</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2011/10/20/blatant-hypocrisy-victoria-demands-nbn-fair-share/#comment-179725</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Harding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 07:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Where did Turnbull ever say he would demolish the NBN, that&#039;s right he didn&#039;t, he said the opposite in fact&lt;/blockquote&gt;Well, he was &lt;i&gt;told&lt;/i&gt; to demolish the NBN by his boss, but in such a conflicted party as the Liberal Party, doing the opposite of what your boss tells you is probably perfectly acceptable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Where did Turnbull ever say he would demolish the NBN, that&#8217;s right he didn&#8217;t, he said the opposite in fact</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, he was <i>told</i> to demolish the NBN by his boss, but in such a conflicted party as the Liberal Party, doing the opposite of what your boss tells you is probably perfectly acceptable.</p>
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		<title>By: alain</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2011/10/20/blatant-hypocrisy-victoria-demands-nbn-fair-share/#comment-179715</link>
		<dc:creator>alain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 07:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@HC

&quot;t makes no difference both are Liberal party members. As a Victorian voter who should I believe and who should I listen to?&quot;

Why do you care, you are a rabid pro-NBN campaigner, you couldn&#039;t give a toss what the state or Federal Coalition say about the NBN that would in anyway influence your locked in myopic position.
Labor could come out and say we miscalculated the NBN costing, it is actually going to be triple what we predicted, and take a decade longer to finish, you would just say  that&#039;s ok, it&#039;s worth any price &#039;cos I need my upload speed increased.

&quot; Mal who thinks the NBN is a white elephant and should be &quot;demolished&quot;?&quot;

Where did Turnbull ever say he would demolish the NBN, that&#039;s right he didn&#039;t, he said the opposite in fact but you know that, but never let the facts get in the way of spouting emotive no fact BS eh?

&quot; The picture is valid and their hypocrisy has been exposed.&quot;

No quite the opposite in fact.

&quot; Thanks for stopping by.&quot;

My pleasure, I will let you get on with your picture pasting, misquoting, inaccurate, myopic pro-NBN propaganda campaign. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@HC</p>
<p>&#8220;t makes no difference both are Liberal party members. As a Victorian voter who should I believe and who should I listen to?&#8221;</p>
<p>Why do you care, you are a rabid pro-NBN campaigner, you couldn&#8217;t give a toss what the state or Federal Coalition say about the NBN that would in anyway influence your locked in myopic position.<br />
Labor could come out and say we miscalculated the NBN costing, it is actually going to be triple what we predicted, and take a decade longer to finish, you would just say  that&#8217;s ok, it&#8217;s worth any price &#8216;cos I need my upload speed increased.</p>
<p>&#8221; Mal who thinks the NBN is a white elephant and should be &#8220;demolished&#8221;?&#8221;</p>
<p>Where did Turnbull ever say he would demolish the NBN, that&#8217;s right he didn&#8217;t, he said the opposite in fact but you know that, but never let the facts get in the way of spouting emotive no fact BS eh?</p>
<p>&#8221; The picture is valid and their hypocrisy has been exposed.&#8221;</p>
<p>No quite the opposite in fact.</p>
<p>&#8221; Thanks for stopping by.&#8221;</p>
<p>My pleasure, I will let you get on with your picture pasting, misquoting, inaccurate, myopic pro-NBN propaganda campaign. </p>
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		<title>By: Dean Harding</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2011/10/20/blatant-hypocrisy-victoria-demands-nbn-fair-share/#comment-179705</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Harding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 05:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How is it not hypocritical to say the NBN is &quot;potentially holding back future broadband investment, market development and innovation.” And then to turn around and say the NBN is not rolling out to enough sites in your state: &quot;The rollout plan shows that Victoria is being disadvantaged in the important early stages of the NBN rollout.&quot;

Both those statements were made by the Victorian Liberal government. Neither of the statements in quotes are paraphrasing -- they&#039;re direct quotes from the Victorian Liberal Party.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is it not hypocritical to say the NBN is &#8220;potentially holding back future broadband investment, market development and innovation.” And then to turn around and say the NBN is not rolling out to enough sites in your state: &#8220;The rollout plan shows that Victoria is being disadvantaged in the important early stages of the NBN rollout.&#8221;</p>
<p>Both those statements were made by the Victorian Liberal government. Neither of the statements in quotes are paraphrasing &#8212; they&#8217;re direct quotes from the Victorian Liberal Party.</p>
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		<title>By: Hubert Cumberdale</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2011/10/20/blatant-hypocrisy-victoria-demands-nbn-fair-share/#comment-179675</link>
		<dc:creator>Hubert Cumberdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 03:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It makes no difference both are Liberal party members. As a Victorian voter who should I believe and who should I listen to? Gordon who thinks the NBN is so great more Victorian sites should get it ASAP or Mal who thinks the NBN is a white elephant and should be &quot;demolished&quot;? Do you understand the hypocrisy of this party regarding the NBN yet? Too bad if you don’t. The picture is valid and their hypocrisy has been exposed. Thanks for stopping by.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes no difference both are Liberal party members. As a Victorian voter who should I believe and who should I listen to? Gordon who thinks the NBN is so great more Victorian sites should get it ASAP or Mal who thinks the NBN is a white elephant and should be &#8220;demolished&#8221;? Do you understand the hypocrisy of this party regarding the NBN yet? Too bad if you don’t. The picture is valid and their hypocrisy has been exposed. Thanks for stopping by.</p>
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		<title>By: Pepe</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2011/10/20/blatant-hypocrisy-victoria-demands-nbn-fair-share/#comment-179665</link>
		<dc:creator>Pepe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 02:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[is he a member of the liberal party?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is he a member of the liberal party?</p>
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		<title>By: Pepe</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2011/10/20/blatant-hypocrisy-victoria-demands-nbn-fair-share/#comment-179655</link>
		<dc:creator>Pepe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 02:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[glad you now have awoken to what the topic actually is, thanks to being reminded by trittium.

see you can learn...!

so we have liberals and clayton liberals, is that what you are saying? and they can contradict each other (just as you do)...

rofl.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>glad you now have awoken to what the topic actually is, thanks to being reminded by trittium.</p>
<p>see you can learn&#8230;!</p>
<p>so we have liberals and clayton liberals, is that what you are saying? and they can contradict each other (just as you do)&#8230;</p>
<p>rofl.</p>
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		<title>By: alain</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2011/10/20/blatant-hypocrisy-victoria-demands-nbn-fair-share/#comment-179645</link>
		<dc:creator>alain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 02:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It makes all the difference, in case you missed what this discussion is all about I will remind you of the headline:

&quot;Blatant hypocrisy: Victoria demands NBN “fair share” 

 So therefore Turnbull doesn&#039;t have to speak up at all, giving your one sided biased and misleading Turnbull picture based forum thread a plug is one thing (I am sure the NBN converted appreciate the effort) but please try and least stay on topic when you do it.

Go to it, get some Rich-Phillips pics and insert statements he never actually said and when called out excuse it as &#039;paraphrasing&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes all the difference, in case you missed what this discussion is all about I will remind you of the headline:</p>
<p>&#8220;Blatant hypocrisy: Victoria demands NBN “fair share” </p>
<p> So therefore Turnbull doesn&#8217;t have to speak up at all, giving your one sided biased and misleading Turnbull picture based forum thread a plug is one thing (I am sure the NBN converted appreciate the effort) but please try and least stay on topic when you do it.</p>
<p>Go to it, get some Rich-Phillips pics and insert statements he never actually said and when called out excuse it as &#8216;paraphrasing&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Hubert Cumberdale</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2011/10/20/blatant-hypocrisy-victoria-demands-nbn-fair-share/#comment-179625</link>
		<dc:creator>Hubert Cumberdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2011 00:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Makes no difference. It&#039;s a party he is part of. If he disagrees with what Paul Fletcher and Gordon Rich-Phillips are saying he should speak up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Makes no difference. It&#8217;s a party he is part of. If he disagrees with what Paul Fletcher and Gordon Rich-Phillips are saying he should speak up.</p>
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		<title>By: alain</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2011/10/20/blatant-hypocrisy-victoria-demands-nbn-fair-share/#comment-179615</link>
		<dc:creator>alain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 23:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[General knowledge update:

Malcom Turnbull is not a MP in the Coalition Government of Victoria.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>General knowledge update:</p>
<p>Malcom Turnbull is not a MP in the Coalition Government of Victoria.</p>
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		<title>By: Hubert Cumberdale</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2011/10/20/blatant-hypocrisy-victoria-demands-nbn-fair-share/#comment-179605</link>
		<dc:creator>Hubert Cumberdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 12:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Their criticism isn&#039;t hypocritical at all, you just don&#039;t properly understand their position&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;http://i.imgur.com/7QWhJ.jpg
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>Their criticism isn&#8217;t hypocritical at all, you just don&#8217;t properly understand their position</i></p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://i.imgur.com/7QWhJ.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i.imgur.com/7QWhJ.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pepe</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2011/10/20/blatant-hypocrisy-victoria-demands-nbn-fair-share/#comment-179505</link>
		<dc:creator>Pepe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[que?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>que?</p>
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		<title>By: deteego</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2011/10/20/blatant-hypocrisy-victoria-demands-nbn-fair-share/#comment-179475</link>
		<dc:creator>deteego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 11:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your point is completely fallicous, under the Liberals plan, almost all blackspots around Australia would be fixed in a single term of government

The fact that the Liberal government is complaining against this further strengthens one of their criticisms of NBN, its taking a dog and a half years to complete, and so there are going to be areas without any broadband improvement for a significant amount of time

Also you can&#039;t really claim this is an issue with the state government, telecommunications infrastructure is owned by Telstra, and not by the state government, and the state government does not legally (or otherwise) have the same amount of muscle as the federal government

Their criticism isn&#039;t hypocritical at all, you just don&#039;t properly understand their position]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your point is completely fallicous, under the Liberals plan, almost all blackspots around Australia would be fixed in a single term of government</p>
<p>The fact that the Liberal government is complaining against this further strengthens one of their criticisms of NBN, its taking a dog and a half years to complete, and so there are going to be areas without any broadband improvement for a significant amount of time</p>
<p>Also you can&#8217;t really claim this is an issue with the state government, telecommunications infrastructure is owned by Telstra, and not by the state government, and the state government does not legally (or otherwise) have the same amount of muscle as the federal government</p>
<p>Their criticism isn&#8217;t hypocritical at all, you just don&#8217;t properly understand their position</p>
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		<title>By: nonny-moose</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2011/10/20/blatant-hypocrisy-victoria-demands-nbn-fair-share/#comment-179455</link>
		<dc:creator>nonny-moose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 07:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rich-Phillips comment that the govt responsibility is to provide &#039;adequate&#039; telco services to contituents. by not doing the NBN rollout in Victoria NOW the inference is that Victorians are left with an &#039;inadequate&#039; service - as compared to those parts of Aus that have recieved NBN. 

i.e. Victoria is being treated as second class citizen. 

its his argument and i personally think its horseshit. evidently you do too. but the fact is it buts right up against the liberal notion that NBN is something we can easily do without, or at the very least dial back to something less ambitious/spending less. 

if its the former, then there is no reason to ask for expedited rollout in Vic - and hes being hypocritical. if its the latter i have to ask what his idea of &#039;adequate&#039; services is. as you say Melbs has that 100mbit cable service; if that is considered inadequate mebbe hes thinking of the business Gbit services that NBN intend offering.

either way hes a rather confused man.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich-Phillips comment that the govt responsibility is to provide &#8216;adequate&#8217; telco services to contituents. by not doing the NBN rollout in Victoria NOW the inference is that Victorians are left with an &#8216;inadequate&#8217; service &#8211; as compared to those parts of Aus that have recieved NBN. </p>
<p>i.e. Victoria is being treated as second class citizen. </p>
<p>its his argument and i personally think its horseshit. evidently you do too. but the fact is it buts right up against the liberal notion that NBN is something we can easily do without, or at the very least dial back to something less ambitious/spending less. </p>
<p>if its the former, then there is no reason to ask for expedited rollout in Vic &#8211; and hes being hypocritical. if its the latter i have to ask what his idea of &#8216;adequate&#8217; services is. as you say Melbs has that 100mbit cable service; if that is considered inadequate mebbe hes thinking of the business Gbit services that NBN intend offering.</p>
<p>either way hes a rather confused man.</p>
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		<title>By: Hubert Cumberdale</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2011/10/20/blatant-hypocrisy-victoria-demands-nbn-fair-share/#comment-179445</link>
		<dc:creator>Hubert Cumberdale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 07:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;I didn&#039;t bring up Coalition policy as being &#039;patchwork and substandard&#039;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Actually you did. I described their plan as a patchwork but rather than sticking to the topic at hand and what was contained in my comment you instead chose to focus on this one irrelevant issue. btw it’s not just my opinion that their plan is a mess and a substandard patchwork, it is a fact. Get over it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>I didn&#8217;t bring up Coalition policy as being &#8216;patchwork and substandard&#8217;</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Actually you did. I described their plan as a patchwork but rather than sticking to the topic at hand and what was contained in my comment you instead chose to focus on this one irrelevant issue. btw it’s not just my opinion that their plan is a mess and a substandard patchwork, it is a fact. Get over it.</p>
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