Comments on: Lotus Notes dumped in AMP cloud email move

By: Gavin Bollard

Gavin Bollard — Fri, 06 Aug 2010 03:48:32 +0000

Not that I want to defend Google but ….

1. It takes guts to admit that the market isn’t ready for your product and pull it. Remember that IBM did the same thing with Workplace. They didn’t do it with OS/2 and it cost them a lot. Arguably, it cost them their leadership in the field. Similarly, Microsoft didn’t do the sensible thing with Vista (and ME) until they’d lost way too much market share.

2. Google’s statement says that they’re not intending to continue developing it as a standalone product. It also says that the innovation will be redeployed. I think you’ll see wave features popping up in Gmail and Google docs soon. Again, IBM did the same thing – Notes 8 is full of Workplace features.

3. I don’t think that Wave was ever a released product. Wasn’t it always in Beta?

I suspect that the innovation of Wave will eventually find its place in the mass market in some shape or form. It will also be interesting to see what happens to IBM’s Project Vulcan which is amazingly similar and, I think (?) contains shared code.

By: Tom

Tom — Fri, 06 Aug 2010 01:42:55 +0000

And Google a company that leads people to a dead end

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/its-a-wipeout-for-google-wave-20100805-11igi.html

By: Tom

Tom — Thu, 05 Aug 2010 03:46:03 +0000

Gavin and others…………clouds can just blow away……………I read this and realise it depends on the weather and we cant even forecast that!

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/its-a-wipeout-for-google-wave-20100805-11igi.html

Also AMP have hundreds of Lotus Applications to be migrated for millions of redevelopment dollar cost and at a time when their share price is falling they believe email change will make things rosey!!!

http://www.asx.com.au/asx/research/companyInfo.do?by=asxCode&asxCode=AMP

They have their head in the Clouds for sure. Google, Microsoft or Lotus….who cares just deliver a profit for shareholders first.

By: Me

Me — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:12:04 +0000

No way. It’s biggest lack is a user friendly client interface. I spent some time working in a >6000 seat fed dept, and this was the single biggest gripe of users for the entire SOE, period.

By: Gavin Bollard

Gavin Bollard — Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:39:03 +0000

In all honesty, if you’re only using Lotus Notes for mail, then there really isn’t a good reason to be on the product (aside from the obvious fact that it’s much more secure than the MS Alternative). IMHO, a forward–looking company who intends to make an email switch would be better advised to use a cloud service like Gmail (or if you stay on IBM, LotusLive). Microsoft’s cloud platform is horrendous – so I’d avoid that at all costs.

Of course, if you’re using Notes for more than mail, then it doesn’t make business sense to switch. As everyone says, it’s **SO** much more than email – but of course, only if you’re using the extra features.

By: Richard

Richard — Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:24:51 +0000

Nothing changed over the years:

IBM – a software company that sometimes makes marketing.

Microsoft – a marketing company that sometimes makes software.

By: Jim

Jim — Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:44:36 +0000

Non-IBM Employee: it *is* much more than e-mail.

Its biggest lack, as is often the case with Microscoffed competitors, is that its vendor failed to throw its weight around sufficiently to offset M’s guerilla tactics – including well-known failings in publicity.

By: Me

Me — Mon, 26 Jul 2010 06:56:13 +0000

Cue the IBM employees feigned outrage “But it’s soooo much more than just email!”.
I only just noticed your Boystown headline Renai – very clever! :)