Comments on: Filter delayed for a year by RC content review

By: Lionell Pack

Lionell Pack — Sun, 11 Jul 2010 00:24:57 +0000

It seems like Conroy still doesn’t understand the ‘RC’ classification. It’s not “bad stuff”. It’s stuff which doesn’t fall under any other classification: I have a BBC documentary which I bought at EzyDVD which is marked ‘Refused Classification’, and it’s a history of aviation. RC material is not illegal to view, sell, or download. “Child Porn” IS, but my understanding is that child porn isn’t generally distributed on the web anyway. There was a wikileaks document a while ago written by an admitted producer and distributor, which explained that it all went via P2P networks and VPNs. Neither of those are affected by the filter. The whole filter idea is an enormous waste of money which will have no real affect on the distribution of child porn. Either Conroy is ignorant of the issues, or he has some goal for the filter outside controlling child porn. I’m no conspiracy theorist: I’m going with the former.

By: Yani

Yani — Sat, 10 Jul 2010 05:14:48 +0000

This is so simple…
I DO NOT WANT MY INTERNET FILTERED
I can do my own filtering, I don’t need, want, care, request, require or wish to have it filtered for me. Are these people totally thick, does bugger off mean nothing to them?

By: Anthony

Anthony — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 14:35:05 +0000

“Telstra, Optus and Primus will voluntarily block (at the ISP level) a list of sites which specifically serve child abuse and pornography content”

Exactly who’s definition of child abuse URL’s are they blocking here? The type that end up on the RC list which can include anything down to fully clothed, child model sites or actual illegal child porn?
If its the real illegal child porn, then you don’t filter that you idiots, you report it too the AFP and get it shut down, which will happen way faster then any filter system will end up blocking it.
If on the other hand it’s the RC definition, then this just sounds like Conroy’s filter is slowly being introduced one step at a time. Especially when Telstra say that while the industry can choose, you’ll then get it weather you like it or not.
All in all, this actually sounds like a bad day.

By: Robotic Buttocks

Robotic Buttocks — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 09:13:14 +0000

Keep your censordyne mind away from my 4chan biatches.

By: Myke

Myke — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 08:42:45 +0000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came...

Now don’t get me wrong, Kiddy Porn is bad, but you go after these people, you don’t penalize *everyone else*.

And to do it with such a dangerous method ripe for misuse. I guess it’s like job creation for Politicians they can endlessly debate what’s misuse and what’s not while the rest of us just get screwed.

Go catch some criminals Conroy and stop screwing with the normal people.

By: R. Ed Neck

R. Ed Neck — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 06:45:07 +0000

Like the insanity of gun control, does the government truly believe that those who wish to gather kiddie porn won’t have other means of getting it?

Here is a crazy thought; how about, instead of punishing the 99% of the population who is law abiding, the government actually chase the 1% that’s not?

Oh right. That’s be too much like work.

By: Eddie

Eddie — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 05:13:45 +0000

To partly answer my own question …

http://www.itnews.com.au/News/219385,conroy-delays-isp-filter-until-after-content-review.aspx

According to above article, Optus’ filter will be mandatory for their customers. Seems Telstra will have a similar arrangement in place as well.

Shame on you, Optus and Telstra. Shame on you.

By: Eddie

Eddie — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 05:04:02 +0000

So, will Telstra, Optus and iPrimus’ so-called voluntary filters be optional or mandator for their customers?

By: James

James — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 04:28:13 +0000

Exactly

“In addition, major ISPs such as Telstra, Optus and Primus will voluntarily block (at the ISP level) a list of sites which specifically serve child abuse and pornography content, until the mandatory filter is implemented. The list will be compiled and maintained by the Australian Communications and Media Authority.”

So now we have blocking _without_ legislation; how is that an improvement?

By: George Bray

George Bray — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 04:14:36 +0000

Excellent. Now there might be a chance of measuring the real performance degradation with large numbers of users going through a mandatory filter.

As long as Internode don’t participate there will be a credible metric to compare with.