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	<title>Comments on: Telstra’s Linux-based T-Box to launch mid-June</title>
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		<title>By: Renai LeMay</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2010/06/01/telstra%e2%80%99s-linux-based-t-box-to-launch-mid-june/#comment-8021</link>
		<dc:creator>Renai LeMay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 00:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Precisely, and at that price it would entice people to Telstra&#039;s network once they realise they can get all the downloads unmetered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Precisely, and at that price it would entice people to Telstra&#8217;s network once they realise they can get all the downloads unmetered.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Edwards</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2010/06/01/telstra%e2%80%99s-linux-based-t-box-to-launch-mid-june/#comment-7989</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 13:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree with you Renai.

Lets look at it another way.  Sell it for $299 to Telstra Customers and $399 to non Telstra customers. Its still a very good value PVR at that price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree with you Renai.</p>
<p>Lets look at it another way.  Sell it for $299 to Telstra Customers and $399 to non Telstra customers. Its still a very good value PVR at that price.</p>
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		<title>By: Renai LeMay</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2010/06/01/telstra%e2%80%99s-linux-based-t-box-to-launch-mid-june/#comment-7960</link>
		<dc:creator>Renai LeMay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 07:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno Phil, I actually think that the T-Box is a damn sight better than anything I have seen from any of the other ISPs so far, especially the movies on demand option. If I was a Telstra fixed broadband customer (which I&#039;m not, I use iiNet, although I do use Telstra&#039;s Next G mobile broadband service), I would definitely buy a T-Box and use it for movie downloading and YouTube watching (I watch a lot of StarCraft II commentated videos on YouTube).

In addition, there is actually not that much that requires you to pay any money for the T-Box. You just buy the device, there is no monthly charge, unless you amortise the $299 charge over a 24 month contract, and you get most of the content for free -- you don&#039;t even pay for downloads, as they&#039;re unmetered (apart from YouTube). The only thing you do pay for is movies on demand.

But yes, they are attempting to use the device as a method to help make customers more &#039;sticky&#039; and get locked into their broadband services ;)

I am looking forward to seeing what iiNet and Internode come out with, though, in terms of FetchTV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno Phil, I actually think that the T-Box is a damn sight better than anything I have seen from any of the other ISPs so far, especially the movies on demand option. If I was a Telstra fixed broadband customer (which I&#8217;m not, I use iiNet, although I do use Telstra&#8217;s Next G mobile broadband service), I would definitely buy a T-Box and use it for movie downloading and YouTube watching (I watch a lot of StarCraft II commentated videos on YouTube).</p>
<p>In addition, there is actually not that much that requires you to pay any money for the T-Box. You just buy the device, there is no monthly charge, unless you amortise the $299 charge over a 24 month contract, and you get most of the content for free &#8212; you don&#8217;t even pay for downloads, as they&#8217;re unmetered (apart from YouTube). The only thing you do pay for is movies on demand.</p>
<p>But yes, they are attempting to use the device as a method to help make customers more &#8216;sticky&#8217; and get locked into their broadband services ;)</p>
<p>I am looking forward to seeing what iiNet and Internode come out with, though, in terms of FetchTV.</p>
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		<title>By: Renai LeMay</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2010/06/01/telstra%e2%80%99s-linux-based-t-box-to-launch-mid-june/#comment-7959</link>
		<dc:creator>Renai LeMay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 07:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I entire agree Phil, and when I asked the Telstra guys about this, they said that it was something that they seriously considered. However, at the end of the day, the idea with the T-Box is not so much to become a real provider of content, as it is to provide yet another reason for customers to use Telstra broadband services. I think at one point someone said that they were not a device manufacturer.

If Telstra were to allow people to use the T-Box on other ISP broadband connections, my belief is that they would have to charge more than $299 for it. I think they are subsidising the device because it helps to lock people into their network etc.

If you have been renting movies through the T-Box for a couple of years and are maybe even watching some of Telstra&#039;s own IPTV channels, it is much more likely that you will stay connected to their network for even longer or maybe even upgrade your plan if you&#039;re using it enough.

However, I agree with you that this is a short-sighted view, stemming from the old network-centric thinking that a company like Telstra is slave to. In my experience, when you open your company up and give your customers transparency and openness, they are much more likely to reward you by engaging with you and returning to buy your services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I entire agree Phil, and when I asked the Telstra guys about this, they said that it was something that they seriously considered. However, at the end of the day, the idea with the T-Box is not so much to become a real provider of content, as it is to provide yet another reason for customers to use Telstra broadband services. I think at one point someone said that they were not a device manufacturer.</p>
<p>If Telstra were to allow people to use the T-Box on other ISP broadband connections, my belief is that they would have to charge more than $299 for it. I think they are subsidising the device because it helps to lock people into their network etc.</p>
<p>If you have been renting movies through the T-Box for a couple of years and are maybe even watching some of Telstra&#8217;s own IPTV channels, it is much more likely that you will stay connected to their network for even longer or maybe even upgrade your plan if you&#8217;re using it enough.</p>
<p>However, I agree with you that this is a short-sighted view, stemming from the old network-centric thinking that a company like Telstra is slave to. In my experience, when you open your company up and give your customers transparency and openness, they are much more likely to reward you by engaging with you and returning to buy your services.</p>
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		<title>By: Renai LeMay</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2010/06/01/telstra%e2%80%99s-linux-based-t-box-to-launch-mid-june/#comment-7956</link>
		<dc:creator>Renai LeMay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 07:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I haven&#039;t seen any real plans to open these systems ... I think the idea is that the telcos want to keep them very closed and controlled so that the content companies will be happy to provide their content to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I haven&#8217;t seen any real plans to open these systems &#8230; I think the idea is that the telcos want to keep them very closed and controlled so that the content companies will be happy to provide their content to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2010/06/01/telstra%e2%80%99s-linux-based-t-box-to-launch-mid-june/#comment-7949</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 06:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that telstra continue to take good products from elsewhere and cripple them - they cripple the mobile phones they sell with their branding and market lockups. 

This looks like it is another attempt to ride a wave made by others and try to own it or build a paywall around it, just like they tried when that pesky internet arrived.

It looks like an xbmc implementation with a shopping cart hook added to every item.

They could (given their market dominance) come up with some great technology at cost effective prices, but only ever seem to use technology for funnelling users down their pipes. 

No thanks, I would rather pay a bit more and have my own xbmc box and get content anywhere I choose thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that telstra continue to take good products from elsewhere and cripple them &#8211; they cripple the mobile phones they sell with their branding and market lockups. </p>
<p>This looks like it is another attempt to ride a wave made by others and try to own it or build a paywall around it, just like they tried when that pesky internet arrived.</p>
<p>It looks like an xbmc implementation with a shopping cart hook added to every item.</p>
<p>They could (given their market dominance) come up with some great technology at cost effective prices, but only ever seem to use technology for funnelling users down their pipes. </p>
<p>No thanks, I would rather pay a bit more and have my own xbmc box and get content anywhere I choose thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Edwards</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2010/06/01/telstra%e2%80%99s-linux-based-t-box-to-launch-mid-june/#comment-7941</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 05:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the video and the article, it appears that for once Telstra has a reasonably compelling product.

However... I personally believe Telstra are making a mistake by only allowing it to be used on the BigPond network.

Why not try to create a &quot;halo&quot; effect?? Sell the T-Box to everyone and then let them decide to move to Telstra when they are good and ready?

I am NOT a fan of Telstra, but this product appeals to me. I would love to be able to try this product and if I like it, move to a Telstra broadband plan where I can take advantage of the IPTV and Movie downloads in an unmetered environment.

Due to my current ISP contract, I will not be purchasing a T-Box and as a result, it becomes less likely that I will consider Telstra when my contract expires.

If Telstra wants to grow their customer base, this is just one way to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the video and the article, it appears that for once Telstra has a reasonably compelling product.</p>
<p>However&#8230; I personally believe Telstra are making a mistake by only allowing it to be used on the BigPond network.</p>
<p>Why not try to create a &#8220;halo&#8221; effect?? Sell the T-Box to everyone and then let them decide to move to Telstra when they are good and ready?</p>
<p>I am NOT a fan of Telstra, but this product appeals to me. I would love to be able to try this product and if I like it, move to a Telstra broadband plan where I can take advantage of the IPTV and Movie downloads in an unmetered environment.</p>
<p>Due to my current ISP contract, I will not be purchasing a T-Box and as a result, it becomes less likely that I will consider Telstra when my contract expires.</p>
<p>If Telstra wants to grow their customer base, this is just one way to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Robotic Buttocks</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2010/06/01/telstra%e2%80%99s-linux-based-t-box-to-launch-mid-june/#comment-7927</link>
		<dc:creator>Robotic Buttocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 02:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice, it will be good to see the same products from internode and iinet. I guess the iinet freezone content will replace the bigpond content.  I wonder if they will ever open up the API like boxee does, it has some great apps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice, it will be good to see the same products from internode and iinet. I guess the iinet freezone content will replace the bigpond content.  I wonder if they will ever open up the API like boxee does, it has some great apps.</p>
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		<title>By: Renai LeMay</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2010/06/01/telstra%e2%80%99s-linux-based-t-box-to-launch-mid-june/#comment-7907</link>
		<dc:creator>Renai LeMay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 00:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well the French have had triple play and ADSL2+ for a deal longer than Australia, you would expect them to be better at it ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the French have had triple play and ADSL2+ for a deal longer than Australia, you would expect them to be better at it ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Renai LeMay</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2010/06/01/telstra%e2%80%99s-linux-based-t-box-to-launch-mid-june/#comment-7893</link>
		<dc:creator>Renai LeMay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 23:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Urgh I wrote this one fairly late. Thanks for pointing this out, I have fixed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Urgh I wrote this one fairly late. Thanks for pointing this out, I have fixed it.</p>
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