Comments on: Foxtel comes to Xbox 360 http://delimiter.com.au/2010/05/20/foxtel-comes-to-xbox-360/ Just Australia. Just technology. Wed, 23 May 2012 12:40:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Robotic Buttocks http://delimiter.com.au/2010/05/20/foxtel-comes-to-xbox-360/#comment-6983 Robotic Buttocks Mon, 24 May 2010 06:32:54 +0000 http://delimiter.com.au/?p=4221#comment-6983 Oh and of course, ABC iView is also hosted on Akamai, hence the no quota. Oh and of course, ABC iView is also hosted on Akamai, hence the no quota.

]]> By: Robotic Buttocks http://delimiter.com.au/2010/05/20/foxtel-comes-to-xbox-360/#comment-6982 Robotic Buttocks Mon, 24 May 2010 06:31:40 +0000 http://delimiter.com.au/?p=4221#comment-6982 In cloud, no one can hear you scream. In cloud, no one can hear you scream.

]]> By: Robotic Buttocks http://delimiter.com.au/2010/05/20/foxtel-comes-to-xbox-360/#comment-6981 Robotic Buttocks Mon, 24 May 2010 06:30:52 +0000 http://delimiter.com.au/?p=4221#comment-6981 Although, iiNet have been hosting various fox shows already on demand. Super14, Premier League. It could have been a test to see how it goes. I think part of the issues are where the data is hosted. Last time I checked, iinet were hosting some akamai servers in Australia, and it just so happened that xbox game demos and non purchase videos were hosted on there, so thats why they were quota free. If FOX go down the Akamai line of hosting, it may be the case. Although, iiNet have been hosting various fox shows already on demand. Super14, Premier League. It could have been a test to see how it goes.
I think part of the issues are where the data is hosted. Last time I checked, iinet were hosting some akamai servers in Australia, and it just so happened that xbox game demos and non purchase videos were hosted on there, so thats why they were quota free. If FOX go down the Akamai line of hosting, it may be the case.

]]> By: Renai LeMay http://delimiter.com.au/2010/05/20/foxtel-comes-to-xbox-360/#comment-6312 Renai LeMay Thu, 20 May 2010 06:52:17 +0000 http://delimiter.com.au/?p=4221#comment-6312 If I hear the term "cloud" one more time this decade I am going to scream. If I hear the term “cloud” one more time this decade I am going to scream.

]]> By: Renai LeMay http://delimiter.com.au/2010/05/20/foxtel-comes-to-xbox-360/#comment-6311 Renai LeMay Thu, 20 May 2010 06:51:39 +0000 http://delimiter.com.au/?p=4221#comment-6311 Exactly. I have long wanted a global service that holds all episode of all TV shows and all movies. No matter what device you are using, where you are or what your broadband connection is, you would be able to login to this service, pay to rent (or a bit more to buy) access to a piece of content, and then stream it or download it to your device of choice for viewing. You would have flexible payment options ... monthly for access to a certain number of pieces of content, or on a per-rental or per-buy basis. The internet IS the intermediary between this sort of fictional service and my devices. I don't want an Xbox, a PlayStation or any other service to come between this sort of global platform and my viewing habits. Why would I? They are only hardware terminating devices. Exactly. I have long wanted a global service that holds all episode of all TV shows and all movies. No matter what device you are using, where you are or what your broadband connection is, you would be able to login to this service, pay to rent (or a bit more to buy) access to a piece of content, and then stream it or download it to your device of choice for viewing.

You would have flexible payment options … monthly for access to a certain number of pieces of content, or on a per-rental or per-buy basis.

The internet IS the intermediary between this sort of fictional service and my devices. I don’t want an Xbox, a PlayStation or any other service to come between this sort of global platform and my viewing habits. Why would I? They are only hardware terminating devices.

]]> By: Renai LeMay http://delimiter.com.au/2010/05/20/foxtel-comes-to-xbox-360/#comment-6310 Renai LeMay Thu, 20 May 2010 06:48:09 +0000 http://delimiter.com.au/?p=4221#comment-6310 Heh also as an iiNet customer, I was wondering the same thing. Will ping iiNet and find out. I highly doubt it, however -- this looks like something that will be a tie-up between Microsoft and Foxtel ... I think the iiNetwork would get in the way from their point of view. Heh also as an iiNet customer, I was wondering the same thing. Will ping iiNet and find out. I highly doubt it, however — this looks like something that will be a tie-up between Microsoft and Foxtel … I think the iiNetwork would get in the way from their point of view.

]]> By: Sean Kaye http://delimiter.com.au/2010/05/20/foxtel-comes-to-xbox-360/#comment-6306 Sean Kaye Thu, 20 May 2010 05:26:08 +0000 http://delimiter.com.au/?p=4221#comment-6306 I see it a bit differently than that. I think what we're seeing is that the internet and device convergence is causing a bit of a scramble and everyone is trying to figure out how to apply their old models to new technologies. So you've got Foxtel doing a deal with Microsoft - locks everyone into a DRM'd platform. The traditional thinking by both companies is, "WooHoo! Microsoft sells more Xbox 360 units, Foxtel doesn't have to deliver a set-top box and both companies sell their annuity based services (Xbox Live Gold and Foxtel for Xbox)". Then there is iinet and their recent deal with Fetch. They get around the virtual Foxtel monopoly on Pay TV services, give themselves a potential new revenue stream and encourage their existing users to upgrade their bandwidth to take advantage. What customers really want are services like Hulu, iTunes or Last.fm where they can buy or subscribe to the content they want when and how they want it. Companies like Foxtel are just intermediaries that will utlimately be unnecessary. If I can subscribe to HBO via the internet or buy their programming a la carte, what is Foxtel doing for me other than aggregating content and playing the role of the gatekeeper? Companies like Microsoft, Sony and Apple are in the middle. Their devices POTENTIALLY could be the entertainment system at the centre. Picking up content directly from the providers. This of course eliminates Foxtel and disintermediates companies like iinet. I think we're seeing that now with the NBN pricing - if that network gets built and I can get 100Mbps to my living room at an affordable price with plenty of download quota then I don't need Foxtel's delivery capability. I see it a bit differently than that.

I think what we’re seeing is that the internet and device convergence is causing a bit of a scramble and everyone is trying to figure out how to apply their old models to new technologies.

So you’ve got Foxtel doing a deal with Microsoft – locks everyone into a DRM’d platform. The traditional thinking by both companies is, “WooHoo! Microsoft sells more Xbox 360 units, Foxtel doesn’t have to deliver a set-top box and both companies sell their annuity based services (Xbox Live Gold and Foxtel for Xbox)”.

Then there is iinet and their recent deal with Fetch. They get around the virtual Foxtel monopoly on Pay TV services, give themselves a potential new revenue stream and encourage their existing users to upgrade their bandwidth to take advantage.

What customers really want are services like Hulu, iTunes or Last.fm where they can buy or subscribe to the content they want when and how they want it. Companies like Foxtel are just intermediaries that will utlimately be unnecessary. If I can subscribe to HBO via the internet or buy their programming a la carte, what is Foxtel doing for me other than aggregating content and playing the role of the gatekeeper?

Companies like Microsoft, Sony and Apple are in the middle. Their devices POTENTIALLY could be the entertainment system at the centre. Picking up content directly from the providers.

This of course eliminates Foxtel and disintermediates companies like iinet. I think we’re seeing that now with the NBN pricing – if that network gets built and I can get 100Mbps to my living room at an affordable price with plenty of download quota then I don’t need Foxtel’s delivery capability.

]]> By: Tom Spence http://delimiter.com.au/2010/05/20/foxtel-comes-to-xbox-360/#comment-6303 Tom Spence Thu, 20 May 2010 05:15:05 +0000 http://delimiter.com.au/?p=4221#comment-6303 No, no, Brendan - your media is "in the cloud". Apply the right buzzword and it sounds far more progressive than "media you can only access on the terms of those providing it." No, no, Brendan – your media is “in the cloud”. Apply the right buzzword and it sounds far more progressive than “media you can only access on the terms of those providing it.”

]]> By: Brendan http://delimiter.com.au/2010/05/20/foxtel-comes-to-xbox-360/#comment-6299 Brendan Thu, 20 May 2010 04:52:32 +0000 http://delimiter.com.au/?p=4221#comment-6299 I like how the industry is moving towards making it <i>physically</i> difficult to get access to media. Who needs DRM when your media is welded in? :P I like how the industry is moving towards making it physically difficult to get access to media. Who needs DRM when your media is welded in? :P

]]> By: Sean Kaye http://delimiter.com.au/2010/05/20/foxtel-comes-to-xbox-360/#comment-6298 Sean Kaye Thu, 20 May 2010 04:51:26 +0000 http://delimiter.com.au/?p=4221#comment-6298 I wonder if, as an iinet customer I'll be able to download the Foxtel content through the Xbox 360 for free against my quota? That would rock. I wonder if, as an iinet customer I’ll be able to download the Foxtel content through the Xbox 360 for free against my quota? That would rock.

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