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		<title>By: Renai LeMay</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2010/02/22/keeping-the-magic-alive-australia-and-ebooks/#comment-8429</link>
		<dc:creator>Renai LeMay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1 to this post, I think it sums up what will happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1 to this post, I think it sums up what will happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Clytie Siddall</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2010/02/22/keeping-the-magic-alive-australia-and-ebooks/#comment-8338</link>
		<dc:creator>Clytie Siddall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 09:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think authors should get a larger share of ebook profits, because the production/handling costs are so much smaller. Also, with the ease of use, availability and possibilities for extra features, I believe ebooks will become even more widespread than hard-copy books, enabling the retailers to reduce prices since they sell more titles. The publishers&#039; current ebook prices are often extortionate, given the tiny cost involved with handling the text.

I envisage a model where authors employ an agent who then subcontracts editing, marketing, retailing and any other required support services, but the author sets the price of the book through the agent and receives the entire amount minus the cost of those services and the agent&#039;s commission. I think this likely future is why publishers are so afraid of ebooks. Self-publication is already possible online.

Fictionwise (before being bought and strangled by B&amp;N) had successfully offered ebook titles for very low prices, with a significant membership discount and weekly specials. Re-issue of older titles should be possible at a very low price. Encourage people to buy backlist titles, by discounting them heavily. Get more value out of your older titles this way, as people become interested in those authors and buy more of your backlist. As for new books, Fictionwise offered all NYT best-sellers at $9.99, which I think was a good marketing strategy. There&#039;s no reason for ebooks to be anything like the price of hard-copy books. The price of hard-copy books reflects many people&#039;s efforts between the author and the reader, plus transport costs, storage and display costs, and enormous wastage in unsold titles. Ebooks are an opportunity for publishers to offer books at really affordable prices, following the example of the music industry. I look at my older music CDs and shudder at how much I paid for each of them, but I can get a whole album now for less than half that price, and that&#039;s not even factoring in inflation. This has worked for the music industry, because the online platform has increased the market. Publishers need to follow this model. They can also add value (embedded media, interactive media, subscriptions etc.) to an ebook.

Currently, I&#039;ll pay $9.99 if the title is something I absolutely must have, but otherwise I&#039;m looking for titles at $5 or less. There&#039;s less work for the publisher, more risk for me (formats losing support, inconsistent authentication systems, the need to backup and manage the file) and it&#039;s certainly worked for book retailers online.

BTW, while we&#039;re talking about the technological burden of being Australian, how about Amazon&#039;s Whispernet charges? Even though I don&#039;t have a Kindle, so I&#039;m downloading purchased books through my own Internet account to the Kindle app on my laptop or iPhone, I get charged the Whispernet fee for the Kindle&#039;s &quot;free&quot; wireless delivery system. This fee is not shown in the book price. If you live outside the U.S. (like most of the world), you pay $2-3 &lt;b&gt;per title&lt;/b&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think authors should get a larger share of ebook profits, because the production/handling costs are so much smaller. Also, with the ease of use, availability and possibilities for extra features, I believe ebooks will become even more widespread than hard-copy books, enabling the retailers to reduce prices since they sell more titles. The publishers&#8217; current ebook prices are often extortionate, given the tiny cost involved with handling the text.</p>
<p>I envisage a model where authors employ an agent who then subcontracts editing, marketing, retailing and any other required support services, but the author sets the price of the book through the agent and receives the entire amount minus the cost of those services and the agent&#8217;s commission. I think this likely future is why publishers are so afraid of ebooks. Self-publication is already possible online.</p>
<p>Fictionwise (before being bought and strangled by B&amp;N) had successfully offered ebook titles for very low prices, with a significant membership discount and weekly specials. Re-issue of older titles should be possible at a very low price. Encourage people to buy backlist titles, by discounting them heavily. Get more value out of your older titles this way, as people become interested in those authors and buy more of your backlist. As for new books, Fictionwise offered all NYT best-sellers at $9.99, which I think was a good marketing strategy. There&#8217;s no reason for ebooks to be anything like the price of hard-copy books. The price of hard-copy books reflects many people&#8217;s efforts between the author and the reader, plus transport costs, storage and display costs, and enormous wastage in unsold titles. Ebooks are an opportunity for publishers to offer books at really affordable prices, following the example of the music industry. I look at my older music CDs and shudder at how much I paid for each of them, but I can get a whole album now for less than half that price, and that&#8217;s not even factoring in inflation. This has worked for the music industry, because the online platform has increased the market. Publishers need to follow this model. They can also add value (embedded media, interactive media, subscriptions etc.) to an ebook.</p>
<p>Currently, I&#8217;ll pay $9.99 if the title is something I absolutely must have, but otherwise I&#8217;m looking for titles at $5 or less. There&#8217;s less work for the publisher, more risk for me (formats losing support, inconsistent authentication systems, the need to backup and manage the file) and it&#8217;s certainly worked for book retailers online.</p>
<p>BTW, while we&#8217;re talking about the technological burden of being Australian, how about Amazon&#8217;s Whispernet charges? Even though I don&#8217;t have a Kindle, so I&#8217;m downloading purchased books through my own Internet account to the Kindle app on my laptop or iPhone, I get charged the Whispernet fee for the Kindle&#8217;s &#8220;free&#8221; wireless delivery system. This fee is not shown in the book price. If you live outside the U.S. (like most of the world), you pay $2-3 <b>per title</b>.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2010/02/22/keeping-the-magic-alive-australia-and-ebooks/#comment-7691</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 07:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too have been reading ebooks for many years and purchasing from a US website as they appeared to have to best range.  Having purchased hundreds of books from them over the past 6 years, I now find I can&#039;t complete the series that I started due to &quot;geographic restrictions&quot;. 

I, like Kristina, have contemplated doing the illegal downloading option.  I would much rather pay an Australian based company a fair price for a book.

Like Janette I appreciate that the work an author puts in to a book doesn&#039;t change regardless of the format.  So, why should the author&#039;s cut get changed??

Surely some Aussie companies can get serious and start providing ebooks by Australian &amp; overseas authors at reasonable prices?  And not this 100 or 200 books - there should be tens of thousands of books for me to choose from - after all, if they&#039;re available elsewhere in the world why not here?

By the way - what&#039; are your thoughts about what is a &quot;fair&quot; price for a book?

Julie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have been reading ebooks for many years and purchasing from a US website as they appeared to have to best range.  Having purchased hundreds of books from them over the past 6 years, I now find I can&#8217;t complete the series that I started due to &#8220;geographic restrictions&#8221;. </p>
<p>I, like Kristina, have contemplated doing the illegal downloading option.  I would much rather pay an Australian based company a fair price for a book.</p>
<p>Like Janette I appreciate that the work an author puts in to a book doesn&#8217;t change regardless of the format.  So, why should the author&#8217;s cut get changed??</p>
<p>Surely some Aussie companies can get serious and start providing ebooks by Australian &amp; overseas authors at reasonable prices?  And not this 100 or 200 books &#8211; there should be tens of thousands of books for me to choose from &#8211; after all, if they&#8217;re available elsewhere in the world why not here?</p>
<p>By the way &#8211; what&#8217; are your thoughts about what is a &#8220;fair&#8221; price for a book?</p>
<p>Julie</p>
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		<title>By: Kristina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 04:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must admit I&#039;m a bit slow to all this, but the release of the Kobo this week made me sit up. I used to buy a paperback or two a week, all sorts. But I haven&#039;t bought a book in years. Part of that was having to move and space... so Lifeline got hundreds of books for their sale and I got rid of a dozen boxes full. 

I&#039;ve been looking at the options over the last few days and I&#039;m not impressed. I can buy a kindle or Kobo or whatever but they have restrictions. I can get a Bebook, which seems better for file options, but then my content is still restricted. I can get an iphone and keep one device on hand and live with the deficiencies  but I&#039;m still restricted on content. I was actually getting a little grumpy. I fancied a B&#039;Day pressie for myself.

So I poked about some and searched a lot... multiple sites for a particular author to see what and where, still pretty depressing. Some but not all and not earlier or latest (which seems odd) and the price is not all that good either.

Then one of my Googles turned up an alternate way.... I had a peek at bittorrent, what was involved how to... and the risks, albeit minor. Not an option I especially like, but....I can get almost anything, especially recent release titles. For example the author I looked for, the entire list (a dozen books in one download with the latest to be added shortly). Naughty? Yes, not really me at all. But I am like Helen not at all impressed by the practices of the industry so I may go black and search the dark side and thumb my nose at these fools that think they can sit back and it will all go away.  Get it together quickly people or you will be steamrollered. If I can go to Amazon and buy a CD or mp3 at appropriate price differences I expect to do the same with books. Learn from that guys or scramble as your business slides even more quickly than it is now.  Film went from dominant to almost non existent in about 5 years.

I for one would not go to Amazon or whoever if there was an alternative here. I like being Australian, I like living here, but sometimes I want to throw things against the wall in frustration. Don&#039;t make me smash my Rosenthal cat.

Kristina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must admit I&#8217;m a bit slow to all this, but the release of the Kobo this week made me sit up. I used to buy a paperback or two a week, all sorts. But I haven&#8217;t bought a book in years. Part of that was having to move and space&#8230; so Lifeline got hundreds of books for their sale and I got rid of a dozen boxes full. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been looking at the options over the last few days and I&#8217;m not impressed. I can buy a kindle or Kobo or whatever but they have restrictions. I can get a Bebook, which seems better for file options, but then my content is still restricted. I can get an iphone and keep one device on hand and live with the deficiencies  but I&#8217;m still restricted on content. I was actually getting a little grumpy. I fancied a B&#8217;Day pressie for myself.</p>
<p>So I poked about some and searched a lot&#8230; multiple sites for a particular author to see what and where, still pretty depressing. Some but not all and not earlier or latest (which seems odd) and the price is not all that good either.</p>
<p>Then one of my Googles turned up an alternate way&#8230;. I had a peek at bittorrent, what was involved how to&#8230; and the risks, albeit minor. Not an option I especially like, but&#8230;.I can get almost anything, especially recent release titles. For example the author I looked for, the entire list (a dozen books in one download with the latest to be added shortly). Naughty? Yes, not really me at all. But I am like Helen not at all impressed by the practices of the industry so I may go black and search the dark side and thumb my nose at these fools that think they can sit back and it will all go away.  Get it together quickly people or you will be steamrollered. If I can go to Amazon and buy a CD or mp3 at appropriate price differences I expect to do the same with books. Learn from that guys or scramble as your business slides even more quickly than it is now.  Film went from dominant to almost non existent in about 5 years.</p>
<p>I for one would not go to Amazon or whoever if there was an alternative here. I like being Australian, I like living here, but sometimes I want to throw things against the wall in frustration. Don&#8217;t make me smash my Rosenthal cat.</p>
<p>Kristina</p>
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		<title>By: Delimiter &#8211; Publishers need to stop hogging the eBook pudding</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2010/02/22/keeping-the-magic-alive-australia-and-ebooks/#comment-5587</link>
		<dc:creator>Delimiter &#8211; Publishers need to stop hogging the eBook pudding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 02:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Firstly, it would be safe to say that virtually everyone in Australia&#8217;s book publishing universe has now called me about the eBook feature I published back in February. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Firstly, it would be safe to say that virtually everyone in Australia&#8217;s book publishing universe has now called me about the eBook feature I published back in February. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Clytie Siddall</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2010/02/22/keeping-the-magic-alive-australia-and-ebooks/#comment-4429</link>
		<dc:creator>Clytie Siddall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When airing my geolimitation frustrations in comments on other articles, I forgot to mention that not only can I no longer get titles from the same series or author: I can&#039;t get previously-purchased Australian authors either! How is that helping the Australian book industry?

As an example, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keri_Arthur&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Keri Arthur&lt;/a&gt; writes a range of fiction books, some based specifically in Australian cities. She is an Australian author. I used to be able to buy her books on Fictionwise, and bought the earlier books in five separate series of hers. After the sudden imposition of &quot;geographic limitations&quot;, I can&#039;t buy any more books in those series.

I wonder what Ms. Arthur thinks about this.

Like Helen, I&#039;m a keen reader who has had the door slammed in her face by booksellers, simply for being Australian. How is this is a good commercial decision? As I&#039;ve said in a previous comment, I can&#039;t read hard-copy books anyway. So I&#039;m not going to buy them, regardless of the availability of ebooks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When airing my geolimitation frustrations in comments on other articles, I forgot to mention that not only can I no longer get titles from the same series or author: I can&#8217;t get previously-purchased Australian authors either! How is that helping the Australian book industry?</p>
<p>As an example, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keri_Arthur" rel="nofollow">Keri Arthur</a> writes a range of fiction books, some based specifically in Australian cities. She is an Australian author. I used to be able to buy her books on Fictionwise, and bought the earlier books in five separate series of hers. After the sudden imposition of &#8220;geographic limitations&#8221;, I can&#8217;t buy any more books in those series.</p>
<p>I wonder what Ms. Arthur thinks about this.</p>
<p>Like Helen, I&#8217;m a keen reader who has had the door slammed in her face by booksellers, simply for being Australian. How is this is a good commercial decision? As I&#8217;ve said in a previous comment, I can&#8217;t read hard-copy books anyway. So I&#8217;m not going to buy them, regardless of the availability of ebooks.</p>
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		<title>By: Delimiter &#8211; Samsung e-readers to hit Australia in 2010</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2010/02/22/keeping-the-magic-alive-australia-and-ebooks/#comment-889</link>
		<dc:creator>Delimiter &#8211; Samsung e-readers to hit Australia in 2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Samsung news comes as the e-reader category is heating up dramatically in Australia, with major players such as the Amazon Kindle entering late last year and the iPad expected to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Samsung news comes as the e-reader category is heating up dramatically in Australia, with major players such as the Amazon Kindle entering late last year and the iPad expected to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Australian Spec Fic blog carnival, March 2010 &#8211; The Word &#8211; According To Me</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2010/02/22/keeping-the-magic-alive-australia-and-ebooks/#comment-855</link>
		<dc:creator>Australian Spec Fic blog carnival, March 2010 &#8211; The Word &#8211; According To Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] At Delimiter Kim Falconer talks about ebooks. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] At Delimiter Kim Falconer talks about ebooks. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Renai LeMay</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2010/02/22/keeping-the-magic-alive-australia-and-ebooks/#comment-790</link>
		<dc:creator>Renai LeMay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No kidding Rhys, I don&#039;t understand it myself!

However I think there is another way to look at it for publishers -- that new technology has the potential to remove them -- the middlemen -- from the picture entirely, with authors selling 

This may explain some of the delay, IMHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No kidding Rhys, I don&#8217;t understand it myself!</p>
<p>However I think there is another way to look at it for publishers &#8212; that new technology has the potential to remove them &#8212; the middlemen &#8212; from the picture entirely, with authors selling </p>
<p>This may explain some of the delay, IMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhys</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing that gets me is that none of the publishers are thinking like businesses. Any real business person would be thinking &quot;hey, i have a whole new market which has almost no productions cost and a great profit threshold, not to mention the opportunity to set myself up as the top dog in that market. i would be crazy to miss this!&quot;

apparently the people running these companies must have a major fear-of-change complex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing that gets me is that none of the publishers are thinking like businesses. Any real business person would be thinking &#8220;hey, i have a whole new market which has almost no productions cost and a great profit threshold, not to mention the opportunity to set myself up as the top dog in that market. i would be crazy to miss this!&#8221;</p>
<p>apparently the people running these companies must have a major fear-of-change complex.</p>
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