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		<title>By: infomisa.net&#187; Blog Archive &#187; TPN Weekly #45 – Love Your Four Dudes – Four Dudes On Tech – TCT Podcast</title>
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		<dc:creator>infomisa.net&#187; Blog Archive &#187; TPN Weekly #45 – Love Your Four Dudes – Four Dudes On Tech – TCT Podcast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hacktivism as Direct Action &#8211; Nazi Punks F**k Off [cont&#39;d] &#171; the bad days will end</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hacktivism as Direct Action &#8211; Nazi Punks F**k Off [cont&#39;d] &#171; the bad days will end</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 04:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TPN Weekly #45 – Love Your Four Dudes – Four Dudes On Tech – TCT Podcast at Tech Podcast Network</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2010/02/12/anonymous-attacks-better-than-signing-a-petition/#comment-464</link>
		<dc:creator>TPN Weekly #45 – Love Your Four Dudes – Four Dudes On Tech – TCT Podcast at Tech Podcast Network</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Outsider</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2010/02/12/anonymous-attacks-better-than-signing-a-petition/#comment-283</link>
		<dc:creator>Outsider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 00:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I never suspected that Australia had people of such little intellectual power and felt so disenfranchised that they would stoop to these levels. I pity their poor parents as their shame must be unparalleled. Perhaps some counseling and anti-psychotic drugs could be made available to them? 
 
If it comes out that this group of miscreants have been abused in some way during their childhood, and I suspect they have been, we should all empathize with them and give them the help they are crying out for. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I never suspected that Australia had people of such little intellectual power and felt so disenfranchised that they would stoop to these levels. I pity their poor parents as their shame must be unparalleled. Perhaps some counseling and anti-psychotic drugs could be made available to them?</p>
<p>If it comes out that this group of miscreants have been abused in some way during their childhood, and I suspect they have been, we should all empathize with them and give them the help they are crying out for.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2010/02/12/anonymous-attacks-better-than-signing-a-petition/#comment-277</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 06:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing is that actually understanding the will of Anonymous is beyond most people. It&#039;s hard to understand the idea of a bunch of wildly varied people coming together for a cause without allowing themselves to be permanently branded. People often become Anonymous for the explicit purpose of not having to deal with legal repercussions, and who can blame them? They do what they must, because they can. 
 
This world is sick and dying, to the point where Rorschach&#039;s gravelly proclamations are almost optimistic. Who could argue that some of the wrongs in this world could be handled far better through radical action than gentle diplomacy? There are a lot of horrible people in this world, doing horrible things to people, and many of them decide that hiding behind laws is the best way to shield themselves from public scrutiny. 
 
It works, too -- as Aussies, you may not be aware of how powerful Scientology is in parts of USA, or how they tried and partially succeeded in infiltrating our government at many levels ranging from tax handling to legislation, securing themselves a defense against any threats to their business model. The RIAA and MPAA are also great examples. They&#039;ve made quite a pretty penny suing the American public, both individually and at large, and have managed to completely and totally retard the ability of the creative process to move forward in the USA. Now they&#039;re pushing ACTA, trying to do the same thing on the global stage. 
 
These people are untouchable by normal means, and evil enough to not be swayed by logic and rational argument. You cannot stop them legitimately. As hard as this is to accept, you will not understand Anonymous until you understand this. People are weak, gullible, dumb, panicky animals, and you know it. Anonymous might not be any stronger, but it is certainly less fearful. 
 
&quot;We do not forgive, we do not forget, expect us&quot; is hardly a terrorist&#039;s creed. It is a statement of resolve. We do what we must, because we can. We are the only ones that have agreed that shedding our names and faces gives us back the power to inflict change on the world, and because of that, we must be the ones that go and act on what everybody knows to be right. 
 
Have you ever watched a group of students in a classroom? The teacher asks for an answer, and all of the apathetic, fearful students sit in silence. Do you know who speaks up? That one kid that is just as afraid as everybody else, but knows that something must be done. That is Anonymous. The pro bono lawyer, the independent grocer, the union representative, these are Anonymous. Although it is certain that Anonymous has done some awful things in the name of getting a cheap laugh, it is also certain that Anonymous has been a positive force in many cases. We have done great things with this mask. Terrible, yes, but great indeed. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing is that actually understanding the will of Anonymous is beyond most people. It&#039;s hard to understand the idea of a bunch of wildly varied people coming together for a cause without allowing themselves to be permanently branded. People often become Anonymous for the explicit purpose of not having to deal with legal repercussions, and who can blame them? They do what they must, because they can.</p>
<p>This world is sick and dying, to the point where Rorschach&#039;s gravelly proclamations are almost optimistic. Who could argue that some of the wrongs in this world could be handled far better through radical action than gentle diplomacy? There are a lot of horrible people in this world, doing horrible things to people, and many of them decide that hiding behind laws is the best way to shield themselves from public scrutiny.</p>
<p>It works, too &#8212; as Aussies, you may not be aware of how powerful Scientology is in parts of USA, or how they tried and partially succeeded in infiltrating our government at many levels ranging from tax handling to legislation, securing themselves a defense against any threats to their business model. The RIAA and MPAA are also great examples. They&#039;ve made quite a pretty penny suing the American public, both individually and at large, and have managed to completely and totally retard the ability of the creative process to move forward in the USA. Now they&#039;re pushing ACTA, trying to do the same thing on the global stage.</p>
<p>These people are untouchable by normal means, and evil enough to not be swayed by logic and rational argument. You cannot stop them legitimately. As hard as this is to accept, you will not understand Anonymous until you understand this. People are weak, gullible, dumb, panicky animals, and you know it. Anonymous might not be any stronger, but it is certainly less fearful.</p>
<p>&quot;We do not forgive, we do not forget, expect us&quot; is hardly a terrorist&#039;s creed. It is a statement of resolve. We do what we must, because we can. We are the only ones that have agreed that shedding our names and faces gives us back the power to inflict change on the world, and because of that, we must be the ones that go and act on what everybody knows to be right.</p>
<p>Have you ever watched a group of students in a classroom? The teacher asks for an answer, and all of the apathetic, fearful students sit in silence. Do you know who speaks up? That one kid that is just as afraid as everybody else, but knows that something must be done. That is Anonymous. The pro bono lawyer, the independent grocer, the union representative, these are Anonymous. Although it is certain that Anonymous has done some awful things in the name of getting a cheap laugh, it is also certain that Anonymous has been a positive force in many cases. We have done great things with this mask. Terrible, yes, but great indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2010/02/12/anonymous-attacks-better-than-signing-a-petition/#comment-276</link>
		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 05:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there&#039;s no such thing as a &quot;spokesperson&quot; for anonymous. even if somebody claims to be one. it shouldn&#039;t be to hard to figure out, especially for a journalist. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there&#039;s no such thing as a &quot;spokesperson&quot; for anonymous. even if somebody claims to be one. it shouldn&#039;t be to hard to figure out, especially for a journalist.</p>
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		<title>By: LarrySDonald</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2010/02/12/anonymous-attacks-better-than-signing-a-petition/#comment-275</link>
		<dc:creator>LarrySDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 04:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Sure AU is famously big breasted, but damn - a law on required breast size in porn? Suits me just fine, but yeah, I think anon is right in saying WTF in a very public way. It won&#039;t protect anyone, just make it more socially acceptable to need fully anonymous access (What?!? You looking at child porn and ripping peoples credit cards? - Nah bro I&#039;m not like that I&#039;m just not into the big breast thing and wanting to browse pr0n with 25-30 y/os with AAs - Oh, yeah, ok). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Sure AU is famously big breasted, but damn &#8211; a law on required breast size in porn? Suits me just fine, but yeah, I think anon is right in saying WTF in a very public way. It won&#039;t protect anyone, just make it more socially acceptable to need fully anonymous access (What?!? You looking at child porn and ripping peoples credit cards? &#8211; Nah bro I&#039;m not like that I&#039;m just not into the big breast thing and wanting to browse pr0n with 25-30 y/os with AAs &#8211; Oh, yeah, ok).</p>
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		<title>By: c.j.b</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2010/02/12/anonymous-attacks-better-than-signing-a-petition/#comment-274</link>
		<dc:creator>c.j.b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 04:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;implying a real 4channer would use &#039;lolcatz&#039;  
 
It&#039;s &quot;Caturday&quot;, ffs. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;implying a real 4channer would use &#039;lolcatz&#039; </p>
<p>It&#039;s &quot;Caturday&quot;, ffs.</p>
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		<title>By: c.j.b</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2010/02/12/anonymous-attacks-better-than-signing-a-petition/#comment-272</link>
		<dc:creator>c.j.b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 04:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Editor: please learn the history of &#039;Anonymous&#039;-- the 420chan dropouts responsible for this attack have nothing in common with the 4chan Anonmousii responsible for the Hal Turner &amp; etc. raids. 
 
&quot;99%&quot; of 4channers were vehemently against this retarded attack. I&#039;ve got to wonder if the Scientologists have infiltrated this group of script kiddies and making them do stupid things... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Editor: please learn the history of &#039;Anonymous&#039;&#8211; the 420chan dropouts responsible for this attack have nothing in common with the 4chan Anonmousii responsible for the Hal Turner &amp; etc. raids.</p>
<p>&quot;99%&quot; of 4channers were vehemently against this retarded attack. I&#039;ve got to wonder if the Scientologists have infiltrated this group of script kiddies and making them do stupid things&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: carl marx</title>
		<link>http://delimiter.com.au/2010/02/12/anonymous-attacks-better-than-signing-a-petition/#comment-271</link>
		<dc:creator>carl marx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DDoS and sign a petition imo, no reason for the attacks to stop though - plenty of anons around the place to keep the attacks up for weeks on end </description>
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